re: GoT S7 E2 "Stormborn" Thread: Maesters Only, Hodors GFY

I think it would be lame if the Night's King needs to be nearby in order for the dead to rise. They will never make it South of the Trident if this were to happen, and I'd want all of Westeros to feel it.

Here's what would awesome: as soon as the Others break the Wall, Tyrion is in the South at Casterly Rock enjoying his victory. Suddenly all the dead from the battle rise around the Rock and lay siege to it.

you have a very vivid imagination
that would be cool though

GoT and today's weather have inspired me to come up with a new phrase (new as far as I know):


It's hotter than a red witch's titty.

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I think it's more feasible than it seems on the surface. As far as they are concerned, Jon Snow was a treacherous Lord Commander of the Night's Watch who used it let the Wildlings South of the Wall for his own personal army. From their point of view Jon is a Oathbreaker with an army of rapists.

As soon as they secured Sansa, I don't think it's all that unfeasible that they'd willingly turn the sword on them, possibly sparing the Mormonts men.

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You have to remember they are still (at least officially) acting on the orders of Robin Arryn. No way they completely deviate and betray the Starks and deprive Sansa of the chance to take back her home. It would be extremely obvious and would result in Baelish going through the moon door, if Ghost doesn't eat him first.

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The kid that asks people to fly on a whim? If that was any obstacle, all LF needed to do is whisper in his ear he was a bad man that wanted to take Sansa away from him, and that he's obligated to have Jon Snow killed for abandoning his vows and destroy the raping Wildlings.

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He would have to convince the Knights of the Vale on the battlefield first. And convince Sansa to keep her mouth shut about murdering possibly her only remaining family member.

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In my scenario, Sansa is the Queen in the North. They would take back her home for her and clear out the Boltons and Wildlings in her name

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Oh okay I get what you're saying. But I really don't see the knights of the Vale going along with that.

I sort of love the idea of Littlefinger being a mastermind and maneuvering his way to the top, only to be brought down by something he can't predict or control (to the point where it's almost anticlimactic).

Like him successfully manipulating Sansa to take control of Winterfell, looking like he's about to become the real power in the North, only to have the Hound show up and be like, "Why's he here? Don't you know he got your dad killed."

Questions- does the Night's King's mojo work on the Mountain, since he's only sorta dead?

I think someone else touched on Littlefinger's death- he's going to be somewhere North enjoying as his schemes are unfolding (disrupting Jon and Sansa's relationship), and either a wight or a White Walker shows up. I speculate on the White Walker, because I could see him lamely trying to negotiate a deal just before he's skewered.

They're truly beyond his reasoning, he's never met anyone he couldn't deal with in some way.

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I agree. It wouldn't make sense for the Knights of the Vale to travel all the way north and destroy 2 major houses. Sansa had been working hand in glove with Jon and his allies the whole time. Having a foreign host destroy them and install her with the backing of a foreign and non northern army wouldn't exactly go over well. And the north remembers.

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My point is that Sansa would become Queen in the North with LF as her Hand and really handler. I think it would be a total hostage crisis with LF over Sansa revealing him for the monster he actually is.

I hope Ghost eats him.

Not trying to shite on your theory, but thats scenario just doesn't appeal to me for several reasons.

Sansa's show storyline has already seen her used as a sort of figurehead or "trophty" queen - to Ramsey.

Littlefinger is not a battlefield commander and I don't think he was with the attacking Knights. He would have to have tried to set up his slaughter of Jon's forces ahead of time which I think would have been very tricky and leave him open to being discovered.

I doubt the Vale Knights would have wanted to stay at Winterfell just to prop Sansa up. (I'm not even sure they will want to stay to fight the Night's King)

They really really need to start moving away from the human politics storylines and towards the war for the dawn storyline. (Though sometimes I think we're all just as guilty of being unable to move on).