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re: GoT S7 E2 "Stormborn" Thread: Maesters Only, Hodors GFY

Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:44 pm to
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As I've said, his best option would have been to massacre Jon and his army instead of saving them.



There's no way the knights of the Vale would have done that. The moment he gave that order is the moment he loses complete control of the Vale army.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:45 pm to
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think he has to pull back from romantic advances and go for 


Lessons from Jorah on how to break into the friendzone...in itself a lofty goal for LF.

Your world is sad place when a Ken doll has more game than you do.

Eta: ok, a Ken with Kung-Fu grip, but still...
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:45 pm to
It is known.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:54 pm to
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quote:
Yara hanging dead on the end of the boat at the end of the scene (i was distracted watching so maybe it wasn't her).
It was the sand snake strangled by her own whip


I see, well theon abandoning Yara doesn't seem quite as bad in that case.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:31 pm to
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There's no way the knights of the Vale would have done that. The moment he gave that order is the moment he loses complete control of the Vale army.


I think it's more feasible than it seems on the surface. As far as they are concerned, Jon Snow was a treacherous Lord Commander of the Night's Watch who used it let the Wildlings South of the Wall for his own personal army. From their point of view Jon is a Oathbreaker with an army of rapists.

As soon as they secured Sansa, I don't think it's all that unfeasible that they'd willingly turn the sword on them, possibly sparing the Mormonts men.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:42 pm to
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This season will end with the death of a dragon and Night King bringing down the wall. Bookmark it.


Or the Night King and his army can walk around the wall at Eastwatch.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:45 pm to
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Or the Night King and his army can walk around the wall at Eastwatch.
Did you get this from the picture on the intro posted on the GoT sub Reddit? The one where there looks like the water around the wall froze over?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:47 pm to
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As far as they are concerned, Jon Snow was a treacherous Lord Commander of the Night's Watch who used it let the Wildlings South of the Wall for his own personal army. From their point of view Jon is a Oathbreaker with an army of rapists.

I think it's obvious that in the show none of them care whether or not he broke his Night's Watch oath.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:50 pm to
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Or the Night King and his army can walk around the wall at Eastwatch.


I do think the Wall is more a magical barrier rather than a physical one. Once the Wall breaks, the dead south of the Wall will rise.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:50 pm to
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Did you get this from the picture on the intro posted on the GoT sub Reddit? The one where there looks like the water around the wall froze over?


I saw it from a youtube video. Guy showed that the shivering sea is frozen during the Intro of S7.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:51 pm to
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I think it's obvious that in the show none of them care whether or not he broke his Night's Watch oath.


Royce should. His son was the one killed in the opening scene of Season 1.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:57 pm to
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I saw it from a youtube video. Guy showed that the shivering sea is frozen during the Intro of S7.

It looks like it's just ice for that one scene but it's really not. The very next scene reveals it to be clouds/fog.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Royce should. His son was the one killed in the opening scene of Season 1.


He still declares him king in the north. Since they seem to believe Jon that the White Walkers are coming maybe they believe the story that he came back from the dead. Plus there's no news that Night's Watch is after him which also indicates that he didn't break his watch.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:41 pm to
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I do think the Wall is more a magical barrier rather than a physical one. Once the Wall breaks, the dead south of the Wall will rise.

I dunno. At Hardhome, it seemed like the Night's King had to do a gesture (raising his arms) to bring the dead back. Of course they could have just put that in for effect.

I'm trying to remember other instances where the dead came back. There was the one who went after Jeor Mormont that Jon burned with a lantern that was actually south of the wall. And I'm blanking on others.

I don't know if the NK has to be close to the body to reanimate it or if he has to concentrate to do it or what. Or if the other White Walkers also possess that power.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:53 pm to
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I don't know if the NK has to be close to the body to reanimate it or if he has to concentrate to do it or what. Or if the other White Walkers also possess that power.


neither does anyone else
it's all speculation
Posted by hambones
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:34 pm to
I can't wait for the battle at eastwatch when the dead breach the wall. gonna be intense!
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:43 pm to
I just hope Brienne gives it up to Tormund before he dies.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:45 pm to
No chance. She's into pretty boys.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:49 pm to
Tormund is about to kill Jamie and she kills Tormund. She loves Jamie.
Posted by hambones
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:16 pm to
I'm worried from the pre-season trailers that tormund is going to die at eastwatch. that scene with them in a circle... my dread for him was reinforced by him being so cocky and confident about Jon sending him there. Tormund to the lords of the north, "I guess WE'RE the nights watch now." i didn't like that. Seemed cheesy. i thought Tormund would've had something more intelligent to say. he's not your average free folk.
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