re: Game of Thrones S8 E3 "The Long Night." Official Thread

That was awesome.

You left yourself open to it, Doc.

In defense of Dany, she stayed grounded to make sure Jon made it safely into Winterfell. She was worried about her loverboy nephew and failed to notice the dead rising behind her.

Drogon's failure to Spidey-Sense that shite and tail-sweep their asses has no defense, however.

Oops. Not Cousin.lol.

Not to you specifically, 19.

I was around page 65 or so and haven’t read everything so....

There were good things and bad things about the episode and the way they handled the WW and NK. I haven’t read the books, but I have always considered them to be the main device to illustrate true evil in this fictional realm and to be the galvanizing force uniting the living.

I have been critical of them not showing more of the WW in action throughout the other seasons, but figured it was due to budget limitations.

It is obvious the show has declined compared to earlier seasons due to lack of source material from Martin. So.....IMO all of this falls back on his laziness.

Let’s face it-there were always going to be complaints because nothing can be perfect. That said, here are some of my personal highlights and lowlights from the episode and how I would have liked to see the show/NK play out.

Good:

The music was amazing
Although military tactics wise it was stupid, the Dothraki charge and death was visually cool and set the tone. The tone=fear and hopelessness
I liked that the living were able to regroup a bit once the fire trench was lit
Personally, Lady Mormont killing the giant was unexpected and nice way to go out
I loved the NK raising the dead when Jon was chasing after him
I liked the NK entrance into the Godswood
I really liked the scene with Sansa and Tyrion behind the crypt—when Sansa pulled out the knife I kind of suspected they realized they were going to die and thought they were going to kill themselves. (Which IMO would have been VERY GoT fashioned surprise/shock)

Bad:

Beating a dead horse here, but I am kind of tired of seeing people survive unsurvivable scenarios. If you want main characters to live then stop placing them in those scenarios.
Brienne, Samwell, Greyworm, Jamie and absolutely Jon should be dead. Probably Dany as well should be done. Keeping all of them alive just stinks of caving in to popularity of the show by the masses.

Zero fighting by the WW. There was a solid opportunity there to have them be the ones to kill major characters in a fitting death.

I didn’t mind Arya killing the NK so much as how she came out of nowhere with a 60” vertical aerial attack. I guess she jumped out of the tree?

How I would have changed the story/parts of it (as if anyone here cares-lol)

I think it would have been shocking and really cool to have had the NK right next to Bran and then once the NK had Arya by the neck in the air-Bran uses a blade to kill the NK.

I think the WW/NK storyline could have been a little more fleshed out via earlier episodes showing them taking down small villages and growing their numbers. If their army was not quite as large then they would have had a bit more of a fair battle and more of a chance for main characters to survive. This would have forced the WW to have to fight some more. Plus, it would have allowed the NK to win the battle of Winterfell and grow his army for the march south without the army forces being so astronomical.

I also think some form of retreat of the living to the Eeryie after losing the battle at winterfell would have been cool. Use the dragons to create a firewall and then maybe use bad weather as a plot device to allow them to escape (use fog as that’s how people escaped them previously). I don’t know, but for all this build up to end like it did seemed too rushed.

Final thought:
The creativity and risk taking has suffered in proportion to the show’s popularity. I still enjoy it, but have lost faith it will end any other way than Hollywoodesque.

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chase Bran out and then followed him South.

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did you see how the horde of wights moved....... If things stayed constant in this show ht wouldnt have been hard to get to Bran during the hold the door scene

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understand that but if the 3ER was in a cave, and the wights are basically immune to cold, and tiredness, you would think the would have had an army surrounding the cave.

I just think that is bad writing.

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They couldn’t enter the cave, not until NK marked bran

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I think it would have been shocking and really cool to have had the NK right next to Bran and then once the NK had Arya by the neck in the air-Bran uses a blade to kill the NK. 

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Maybe so, but the backlash from "lazy writer's guild" would've had a field day about it.

I agree with most of your post, though.

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you would think the would have had an army surrounding the cave.

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For what purpose? The 3ER was just chilling in there forever and they couldn’t go in


And they did have wights that came out of the ground

Great visual great for the plot and mood

Good television bad battle strategy.

Melissandra walking out there topless would've held them back better than 10k Dothraki.