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Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:47 am to slackster
Loved the episode myself. Not 109% what I thought but that is fine
I was hoping they would give Sam some balls and not have him be such a sniveling little bitch. LOL
I was hoping they would give Sam some balls and not have him be such a sniveling little bitch. LOL
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:47 am to CBandits82
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full expect a fairy tell ending.
Jon and Dany happily married with their little kids playing on the lawn in front of the Throne smiling and happy in the sunshine. End credits.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:48 am to CBandits82
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Yea the way things are going with the story and these characters, i full expect a fairy tell ending.
yup, exactly.
If we get it, there will be bitching.
If we don't, there will still be bitching. The shocker is it will be the same people bitching either way.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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lighting is part of direction and the lighting was terrible
I didn't have any issue with seeing anything
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:49 am to Nguyener
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Jon and Dany happily married with their little kids playing on the lawn in front of the Throne smiling and happy in the sunshine. End credits.
I thought fat man told them the ending and that it would be "bittersweet"
I think we will get the ending that GRRM wanted, its just the how to get there that is going to be different
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:49 am to slackster
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Exactly. If she dies there I doubt they'd be in this thread complaining about how she slipped past the WW. Something that bothers them so much would be ignored because the real fans got a surprise death.
Let's say this happens and then Bran kills the NK without much effort or Theon throws something at the NK and kills him. It would still be unsatisfying for me. It's not that Arya killed him, it's that the show built up this war and we got lame battle plan with the key players on one side never really lifting a weapon.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:50 am to Salmon
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I thought fat man told them the ending
I don't believe he ever had one. I think that every statement from Martin since the show passed the books has been bullshite lip service.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 8:52 am
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:51 am to Nguyener
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What this all comes down to is HBO bought incredible potential with no planned payoff. They bought an unfinished product from a snake oil salesman with writers block.
The books are incredible and provide fantastic source material. Martin promised to finish them and didn't deliver. When the series passed the books the quality plummeted because the creative mind and the fleshed out source material were gone.
basically this
also let me just say, for the "it is about the WWs / it's all about politics!" theme switchers, you should be PISSED at how D/D fricked up Dorne. they are the political/maneuvering heavyweights countering the Lannisters
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:52 am to Nguyener
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I don't believe he ever had one.
Eh.
I'm sure he had/has an idea who will be alive at the end.
It's getting there that is the hard part.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:52 am to Salmon
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I didn't have any issue with seeing anything
The darkness was manageable and I see why they went with a night battle. The Dothraki and the burning trench were visually spectacular. The blizzard the NK summoned really made everything hard to follow though. I get it, we're seeing the same conditions they are that caused Jon and Dany to crash into each other, but as a viewer those conditions sucked.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:53 am to Nguyener
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I don't believe he ever had one.
i think he does, but his ending is post-WW resolution like "Sana sits on the throne" (as someone postulated earlier in this thread)
didn't he say he revealed 3 things to D/D? one was how Hodor Hodor'd, i think the other was confirming R+L=J, so there is one more
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:53 am to Dam Guide
The NK backed down from the fight with Jon. He deserved the assassination ending.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:53 am to Dam Guide
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Let's say this happens and then Bran kills the NK without much effort or Theon throws something at the NK and kills him. It would still be unsatisfying for me.
Let's say he kills Arya and eveyone full retreats to kings landing and there is a massive battle there that starts with Cersei attacking eveyone but switches to eveyone fighting the walkers that spans three episodes where eveyone fights the walkers and each other all at the same time in spectacular climax and characters die throughout it finally leaving someone alive at the end to pick up the pieces and sit on the throne.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 8:56 am
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:53 am to LanierSpots
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I was hoping they would give Sam some balls and not have him be such a sniveling little bitch. LOL
How that dude is alive right now is beyond me.
Apparently the key to a greater chance of surviving a horde of 100K zombies hellbent on killing you is to either:
possess a vagina or act like one
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:53 am to TigerinATL
At least Lyanna died fighting someone her own size.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:54 am to tommy2tone1999
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To all complaining that Bran did nothing. Bran did what he was supposed to do, that is to lure the NK out to a set spot for an ambush. The plan fell apart when Dany flew off after the Dothraki went down and JS followed. Arya saved their asses.
So what was the purpose of him warging into the ravens for the entire battle?
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:54 am to TigerinATL
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I get it, we're seeing the same conditions they are that caused Jon and Dany to crash into each other, but as a viewer those conditions sucked.
yeah fighting in night isn't some new thing and yes, it doesn't look like actual night fighting
like i said earlier though, i think it was a budgetary decision. they didn't have to show as much b/c of the darkness
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:55 am to slackster
I still really enjoy the show while also acknowledging that it's changed a bit
I think that change is organic, though. A lot of what we loved about the show was wrapped up in the more mysterious elements of it. (Jon's lineage, the threat of White Walkers, how are these things all going to intertwine, etc.)
As it all comes to a head, there is less and less to speculate on and more action. It's almost like the "dogs chasing cars" conundrum in that we don't really know how to feel about the answers and the presentation of the answers once we get them.
I'll always enjoy drama and suspense slightly more than action - that's just the type of TV/movie viewer I am - so for me, the idea and looming threat of the Night King was inherently going to be more interesting than the conclusion.
Sure, there are natural flaws present with the past couple of seasons of Game of Thrones. I personally think the show peaked with the last two episodes of Season 6. I can't imagine TV getting better than that, honestly.
But given the structure they have to work with, and considering the fact that it isn't even THEIR story, I think D&D have done a good job. Most people love it, it's the hyper-critical amongst us who are nit-picking.
Hell, I really enjoyed it, but I can also see where the gripes are coming from.
Sorry that's a bit rambling, I'm still trying to process things.
I think that change is organic, though. A lot of what we loved about the show was wrapped up in the more mysterious elements of it. (Jon's lineage, the threat of White Walkers, how are these things all going to intertwine, etc.)
As it all comes to a head, there is less and less to speculate on and more action. It's almost like the "dogs chasing cars" conundrum in that we don't really know how to feel about the answers and the presentation of the answers once we get them.
I'll always enjoy drama and suspense slightly more than action - that's just the type of TV/movie viewer I am - so for me, the idea and looming threat of the Night King was inherently going to be more interesting than the conclusion.
Sure, there are natural flaws present with the past couple of seasons of Game of Thrones. I personally think the show peaked with the last two episodes of Season 6. I can't imagine TV getting better than that, honestly.
But given the structure they have to work with, and considering the fact that it isn't even THEIR story, I think D&D have done a good job. Most people love it, it's the hyper-critical amongst us who are nit-picking.
Hell, I really enjoyed it, but I can also see where the gripes are coming from.
Sorry that's a bit rambling, I'm still trying to process things.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:55 am to Nguyener
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This episode caused a massive readers VS watchers schism.
This is what I’m seeing too.
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