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re: Game of Thrones S8 E3 "The Long Night." Official Thread
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:35 pm to Smoke7024
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:35 pm to Smoke7024
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Both for me, but one happened on screen and one didn't. With the way she Sonic'd past the WW, I'm just going to assume she did the same to get there.
I’m going to assume she made it to the GW before the wights and white walkers, so she didn’t have to make it past all of them, only a few when the NK showed himself to be vulnerable and far away from the rest of them
Doesn’t really matter though, I can suspend disbelief for a show about dead armies, dragons, people brought back from the dead, etc
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:36 pm to Nguyener
quote:Maybe she jumped from a tree onto the ground behind him, then jumped again at him?
Yeah that gif pretty much sums up the problems. She initially is seen rising and then falling as if she jumped from the ground
When he catches her she is kind of moving on a horizontal axis.
That's just shitty directing. Instead of shooting the scene with absolute continuity in mind they just tried to make it look cool
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:37 pm to Smoke7024
Yeah the problem is that was just so anticlimactic. And it didn't have to be. The script writers and directors fumbled the set up and it broke the payoff. I don't have a problem with the Night King dieing or even with Arya killing him. It just wasn't done well.
The Night King is basically a God. He can kill dragons and summon ice storms and raise the dead. He can smirk stand in the face of direct dragon fire and sense Bran from miles away. And he has been built up for 8 years as a massive force and player, he even has his own dragon to ride, and he has been in Bran's vision, Jon's warnings, etc.... All of that and he didn't even unsheath his weapon. He got punked hard by a cheap shot sneak attack. He deserved better. The fans deserved better.
The Night King is basically a God. He can kill dragons and summon ice storms and raise the dead. He can smirk stand in the face of direct dragon fire and sense Bran from miles away. And he has been built up for 8 years as a massive force and player, he even has his own dragon to ride, and he has been in Bran's vision, Jon's warnings, etc.... All of that and he didn't even unsheath his weapon. He got punked hard by a cheap shot sneak attack. He deserved better. The fans deserved better.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:37 pm to agreenway6
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Which is why I think they are going to kill her off. It makes a lot of sense. Getting everyone on the Arya train, giving her this much "power" and then shocking everyone by killing her
The thing that would frustrate me about that, other than my favorite character dying, is that fans would react terribly to that. In particular to die hard fans. I can see this board now, "this is unbelievably horrible writing, you have the girl that was able to sneak up on the NK and yet she gets killed by (insert random person here), this show is crap."
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:37 pm to TheCaterpillar
The wind blowing the white’s hair like that makes sense now, sadly
She Usain Bolted her arse past all these dangerous frickers somehow
She Usain Bolted her arse past all these dangerous frickers somehow
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:37 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Maybe she jumped from a tree onto the ground behind him, then jumped again at him?
Then it makes her vert/jump even more unbelievable.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:39 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:39 pm to CBandits82
A lot of blowback also exists if you disagree with who the villain is here.
To me, having read the books as well, the villain of this show has always been the Others. The entire thing was Winter is indeed coming, and everyone needs to recognize it and get their shite together on the political end.
The writers had a different take which is fine but not something I agree with or how I would see Martin writing it. The show-runners have Cersei as the ultimate villain, which is where we are.
Not saying its terrible, but to me the show was about the impending march of the Others on the Seven Kingdoms.
Of course you could make the point that its all about politics and fighting for the throne and the Others were secondary, but to me it was about NK and WW as the true villain. Hence some of the backlash we are having.
To me, having read the books as well, the villain of this show has always been the Others. The entire thing was Winter is indeed coming, and everyone needs to recognize it and get their shite together on the political end.
The writers had a different take which is fine but not something I agree with or how I would see Martin writing it. The show-runners have Cersei as the ultimate villain, which is where we are.
Not saying its terrible, but to me the show was about the impending march of the Others on the Seven Kingdoms.
Of course you could make the point that its all about politics and fighting for the throne and the Others were secondary, but to me it was about NK and WW as the true villain. Hence some of the backlash we are having.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:39 pm to RollTide1987
Arya survived an epic war, killed an unknown number of enemies, needed the direct aid of a man who has died and brought back a dozen times as well as the aid of possibly the best fighter in all the GOT universe, then killed the NK.
People conveniently forget everything she went through during the battle as if all she did was strut right through the battle and jab the NK like she was pushing an elevator button.
People conveniently forget everything she went through during the battle as if all she did was strut right through the battle and jab the NK like she was pushing an elevator button.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:41 pm to CBandits82
When you are dealing with something like the undead it basically had to end at Winterfell. Any further and the army of the undead is going to so drastically outnumber the living that they stand zero chance.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:42 pm to Nguyener
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Yeah the problem is that was just so anticlimactic. And it didn't have to be. The script writers and directors fumbled the set up and it broke the payoff. I don't have a problem with the Night King dieing or even with Arya killing him. It just wasn't done well.
The Night King is basically a God. He can kill dragons and summon ice storms and raise the dead. And he has been built up for 8 years as a massive force and player, he even has his own dragon to ride, and he has been in Bran's vision, Jon's warnings, etc.... All of that and he didn't even unsheath his weapon. He got punked hard by a cheap shot sneak attack. He deserved better. The fans deserved better.
I agree with most of that. I won't say it was anticlimactic at all, because the episode was fairly intense the whole time. But the eight season buildup about how dangerous and badass the NK is only to have him go out like that, without even doing anything in the battle (butfor raising the dead once on the battlefield), was disappointing.
Him dying? Cool. That has been the point for the entire show. Arya killing him? No problem. She's a beast. But the execution fell a bit short for me. And I'm not even trying to say I could've written it better or any of that bullshite. I just feel like D&D could have delivered it much better.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:42 pm to The Quiet One
Oh no I’m totally fine with her being the one to do it
I just liked it a million times more when I thought she jumped out of the godswood
I just liked it a million times more when I thought she jumped out of the godswood
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:42 pm to CBandits82
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To me, having read the books as well, the villain of this show has always been the Others. The entire thing was Winter is indeed coming, and everyone needs to recognize it and get their shite together on the political end.
The writers had a different take which is fine but not something I agree with or how I would see Martin writing it. The show-runners have Cersei as the ultimate villain, which is where we are.
Uhhh...
I would question if you've even read the books. Most book readers have long thought that the battle with the Night King would be over really early on, because that is something that Martin ISN'T that interested in as opposed to the human interactions and machinations.
In fact, and you should probably know this if you are a book reader, he has hinted on multiple occasions that this would be the case, including his infamous comments on the Scouring of the Shire in LOTR.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:42 pm to CBandits82
What Im bothered with now is that now that NK is done and everyone is still here essentially it changes my perception of the show which is kind of tough since I read the first book in 2005.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:42 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I hear ya. Just curious, what major character did you WANT to die?
I think everybody wanted Arya, Sansa, and dany to die
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:43 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:i do because she barely made it out of the library. And dont give me the concussed angle because if you claim that she would still be concussed 20 mins later.
But knowing her skill set, I dont think it is that crazy to say she could sneak past some wights in the forest
quote:i cant skim through the ep right now but there is an aerial shot showing the distance and it just isnt plausible. She has never been shown to have super human speed running, and to cover that distance is just powering her up to defeat a powerful enemy, what is what everyone is bent out of shape about.
hen be able to sprint to the middle with it being too late for the WW to react. Their attention was clearly focused on the NK and Bran. A WW could have easily thought any movement around him was just another wight.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:43 pm to 50_Tiger
Also for the Mad Queen folks:
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:44 pm to CBandits82
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To me, having read the books as well, the villain of this show has always been the Others. The entire thing was Winter is indeed coming, and everyone needs to recognize it and get their shite together on the political end.
LAST WEEK the Hodors were defending the wasted episode with 'the walkers are the only thing that matters" and today they're pushing "the walkers don't matter. it's all about the Iron Throne!" narrative. they're suffering from battered wife syndrome
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:44 pm to The Quiet One
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People conveniently forget everything she went through during the battle as if all she did was strut right through the battle and jab the NK like she was pushing an elevator button.
Nope, everything she went through makes that last scene even more ridiculous. That's my problem with it. If she has sonic speed and super leaping ability, why did she go through everything else in that episode?
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LAST WEEK the Hodors were defending the wasted episode with 'the walkers are the only thing that matters" and today they're pushing "the walkers don't matter. it's all about the Iron Throne!" narrative. they're suffering from battered wife syndrome
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