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re: Game of Thrones S6:E6:"Blood of My Blood", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
I really do love the show. I just get frustrated some times.
I just don't see how this stuff gets resolved in 2 more (short) seasons
We are constantly bringing in new places and characters.
I just don't see how this stuff gets resolved in 2 more (short) seasons
We are constantly bringing in new places and characters.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:54 am to Stonehog
Jamie and the Tyrells didn't attack the HS and his followers becuase that would be an attack on the Crown ( Queen included) and they directly won't go against the crown.
Now it is Cersi's fault that this whole thing escalated as far as it did becuase she thinks she's like her father and thus overestimates her abilities. But they won't attack the HS outright becuase Tommen would have them punished. He sent Jamie away just becuase he stood against the Faith Militant.
The family's true power died with Tywin. If he was still alive none of this would've even come close to happening.
Dany's little speech was stupid though. She's all talk but not much of a leader or "conquer"
She hasn't really earned anything she has.
I'm pretty sure Jamie hasn't killed several kids much less one (Almost killed Bran though).You're thinking of the Mountain.
Now it is Cersi's fault that this whole thing escalated as far as it did becuase she thinks she's like her father and thus overestimates her abilities. But they won't attack the HS outright becuase Tommen would have them punished. He sent Jamie away just becuase he stood against the Faith Militant.
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It doesn't jive with anything we've been shown about this family throughout the entire series.
The family's true power died with Tywin. If he was still alive none of this would've even come close to happening.
Dany's little speech was stupid though. She's all talk but not much of a leader or "conquer"
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You have Jamie who has killed a king and various children
I'm pretty sure Jamie hasn't killed several kids much less one (Almost killed Bran though).You're thinking of the Mountain.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:17 pm to Upperdecker
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Do you know how to spell the word "white"?
I thought it was spelled "wight"
Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that's b/c they are, other than through trade
Which to me takes away from the power of the iron throne. Its like half the world (or more) doesn't care about the iron throne at all. So whats the allure of the iron throne? I dont get it. It doesn't seem to provide any power that you can't get from simply being apart of a household name.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:26 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I thought it was spelled "wight" . i was using "white" before, but I thought book readers were spelling it "wight". Guess its white then.
White Walkers control armies of Wights. (Wights being zombies)
Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:38 pm to Prominentwon
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I'm curious if Arya is leaving or quitting the man-E -face (anyone see what I did there) gods, what was the point of that entire storyline?
I suppose, if anything, it showed Arya learning new fighting abilities, and how to infiltrate and deceive to accomplish tasks. She knows the methods to killing particular individuals, and she knows better than she did when she first came to Braavos on how to fight in a stealth manner. At least thats what I'm thinking.
Also, I suppose you could say the land of Westeros has forgotten she exists? Thus making her return + her new abilities all that more lethal if handled properly?
You can see at this point how the entire Stark family is sort of rising from the ashes. They were at a point where we thought they'd never see each other again, much less, we thought we'd never see the starks mount up enough strength to even contend.
Alas, Jon is brought back to life, Sansa escapes her captors finally and reunites with Jon Snow. We may soon see Rickon join Sansa and Jon. You have Bran likely going back south WITH Uncle Benjen Stark nonetheless. Now, you have Arya seemingly finally ready to head back to Westeros, AND now Dany is showing she is clearly back on track to head back to westeros.
Anyways, as for Arya again...
Maybe when she saw that play, she finally realized what she truly wanted/stood for. In fact, maybe she has learned beyond the Faceless man about the wonders of the many face god...and its set her free upon this path.
What you may even see is that a Stark trick (or something from the Arya Stark of Westeros and what she learned from her family/father) aids in her bringing down the red haired chick from the faceless men. In the same act, it topples what the red haired girl knew/believe about the many face god, and what the faceless man knew.
Hell, maybe the faceless man and the red haired girl already know whats going to happen with Arya, and they knew she would refuse, and that its part of the many-face god's will secretly?
As they said, there has never been a high-born faceless man, and maybe she fills some prophecy.
Alright, all conjecture, speculation, yadda yadda.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:39 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Which to me takes away from the power of the iron throne. Its like half the world (or more) doesn't care about the iron throne at all. So whats the allure of the iron throne? I dont get it. It doesn't seem to provide any power that you can't get from simply being apart of a household name.
The person who sits on the Iron Throne is the ruler of all of Westeros which consists of 7 kingdoms. The Lords of all these other households are supposed to all be in service to the King. So essentially the King usually has far more power than anyone else in Westeros even though that hasn't been the case for the last few seasons due to all the wars/rebellions.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Which to me takes away from the power of the iron throne. Its like half the world (or more) doesn't care about the iron throne at all.
Why would anyone in Essos give two shits about the crown?
They are called the free cities for a reason.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:50 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Jamie hasn't killed several kids much less one (Almost killed Bran though).You're thinking of the Mountain.
He strangled his young cousin with a chain.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:57 pm to Stonehog
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He strangled his young cousin with a chain.
He was in his 20s
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:21 pm to Dr RC
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Why would anyone in Essos give two shits about the crown?
Braavos surely does. They have invested in it heavily (Iron Bank).
Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:26 pm to Corch Urban Myers
Seriously, do you not remember Mace Tyrell going there last season and trying to negotiate a better interest rate from them? 
Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:41 pm to Corch Urban Myers
Of course but that isnt going to make the average Joe over there care about the happenings in KL which is what Tigger was opining about.
The vast majority of the people in the Free Cities in Essos DGAF about who sits on the thrown.
Some may have investments that could be at risk but for the most part the happenings in Westeros are of no concern to them. (well right up until the WW start wrecking shite...)
The vast majority of the people in the Free Cities in Essos DGAF about who sits on the thrown.
Some may have investments that could be at risk but for the most part the happenings in Westeros are of no concern to them. (well right up until the WW start wrecking shite...)
Posted on 5/30/16 at 2:10 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Jamie and the Tyrells didn't attack the HS and his followers becuase that would be an attack on the Crown ( Queen included) and they directly won't go against the crown
It wasn't an "attack against the crown" until last night. They've had two seasons to do something about this guy and they've done nothing.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 2:14 pm to Dr RC
Margery has a plan, she's got to be playing a long con. When she was talking to Tommen, the things she was saying, Tommen was in disbelief that Margery was saying how bad of a person she was because she is not that bad. I don't believe for one second that Margery is a Sparrow convert. Something more is going on there. I'm betting Margery is playing with the Sparrows to rid herself of Cersei. Once that's done she'll rid herself of the HS.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 2:39 pm to 1BamaRTR
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He was in his 20s
The point is Jamie has killed for way less.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 4:37 pm to Stonehog
The way I see it/easiest way to see it IMO is
Westeros is Britain(Kings Landing = London, iron islands = Shetland islands, the wall is Hadrians wall) and the free cities etc would be mainland Europe, narrow sea = the channel
Westeros is Britain(Kings Landing = London, iron islands = Shetland islands, the wall is Hadrians wall) and the free cities etc would be mainland Europe, narrow sea = the channel
Posted on 5/30/16 at 4:59 pm to engvol
GRRM is big history buff and has stated that some of the events and settings are based off real events and settings so it's a good way to look at it.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:44 pm to 1BamaRTR
A lot to consider, so far.
Sam on the road again, now with daddy's sword. Still possible he can meet up with Jorah and Melisandre in Oldtown, and start up the alliance between Jon Snow and Dany.
-Jorah needs a cure, Oldtown might be the most likely place to learn of one. He can bring word of Dany and the Dragons.
-Mel has to get away from Brienne, to learn more about why she misjudged Stannis and figure out if Jon is the promised guy. She's likely also eventually headed towards Merreen to seek the counsel of the High Priestess. She also might know about how Shireen was cured.
-Sam is going there to be a Maester, and learn how to combat the White Walkers. Discovering Dany has dragons (great defense against the WW) will be huge to him. Learning Snow was killed and resurrected will also be huge to him.
I see these three making deals to further all of their causes. Jorah wants to help Dany gain the Iron Throne, and her control of the dragons will make her a great option to those opposed to the WW.
Sam on the road again, now with daddy's sword. Still possible he can meet up with Jorah and Melisandre in Oldtown, and start up the alliance between Jon Snow and Dany.
-Jorah needs a cure, Oldtown might be the most likely place to learn of one. He can bring word of Dany and the Dragons.
-Mel has to get away from Brienne, to learn more about why she misjudged Stannis and figure out if Jon is the promised guy. She's likely also eventually headed towards Merreen to seek the counsel of the High Priestess. She also might know about how Shireen was cured.
-Sam is going there to be a Maester, and learn how to combat the White Walkers. Discovering Dany has dragons (great defense against the WW) will be huge to him. Learning Snow was killed and resurrected will also be huge to him.
I see these three making deals to further all of their causes. Jorah wants to help Dany gain the Iron Throne, and her control of the dragons will make her a great option to those opposed to the WW.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:48 pm to 1BamaRTR
1) Margaery has a card up her sleeve that Tommen is not aware of. She can't let him in on it because he is too naïve and perhaps stupid. She's no convert. She was appalled at what HS did to her brother.
2) I may be in the minority but I like Arya's story line, she's one of my favorite characters. I wonder if the books explain the faceless men & god in more detail because they show hasn't done a good job of laying out exactly what their purpose is. What was their leader doing in Westeros way back in the beginning of the show, anyway, in the first place? I think there's more to it than Arya getting some training and I think there's more to them than simply being mercenaries. Something cool is going to happen with this storyline.
2) I may be in the minority but I like Arya's story line, she's one of my favorite characters. I wonder if the books explain the faceless men & god in more detail because they show hasn't done a good job of laying out exactly what their purpose is. What was their leader doing in Westeros way back in the beginning of the show, anyway, in the first place? I think there's more to it than Arya getting some training and I think there's more to them than simply being mercenaries. Something cool is going to happen with this storyline.
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