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re: Game of Thrones S6:E6:"Blood of My Blood", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeah, Jacob gets it. 
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:07 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
Am I the only one who likes the girl who is going after Arya? I hope something happens that keeps her in the story. The bitch don't play.
The face dude seems to really like Arya.
The face dude seems to really like Arya.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:12 am to The Eric
quote:deep.
pretty much been led to believe that people in this "cult" should have no desires. It's the older girl's desire to kill Arya, which will ultimately be her demise.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:14 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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1) The King and Queen have aligned with "Bernie". And the leaders of the army there are the PARENTS of said K and Q. Not to mention, Tommen is Jaime's last remaining child who is alive. Jaime and Tyrell were NOT going to go to war in that moment against their own children
2) Because of the alliance, it was NOT Tyrell's army and Jaime vs Sparrows. It was that group against the King's army, the Sparrows, the peasants, AND any remaining loyalist armies that support the ruler of the Iron Throne (few as they may be)
This misses the whole point that the sparrow was able to gain this much power in the first place. He was getting too powerful last season and no one did anything. The Lannisters have no problem killing people, Cersei has zombie Mountain, and yet they let this guy take over the whole city and brainwash the king. It's dumb and frustrating because it flies in the face of everything we know about the Lannisters.
They also managed to make Lady Tyrell into a weak bitch. She murdered a sitting king in public, but hasn't managed to get rid of homeless Bernie after he put her grandkids in prison and beat the shite out of them every day? Please.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:31 am to Stonehog
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It's dumb and frustrating because it flies in the face of everything we know about the Lannisters.
what about Cersei and her constantly failing plans makes you say it "flies in the face" of her character?
her dumbass fell into a trap with the HS b/c she's so arrogant and overrates her intelligence
she also was teh primary driver in giving the HS so much power (in ultimate irony)
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:32 am to Sho Nuff
Tommen is still a boy. He's a good guy. His problem is he genuinely wants to do the right thing. He wants to be a good king. Probably the best guy out of the whole lot on the show but he is surrounded by vultures on the show. There is no one looking out for his best interests since Tywin was killed.
Its no wonder the Sparrow manipulates him. How many of us could've seen through all of that crap when we were 15 or 14?
Its no wonder the Sparrow manipulates him. How many of us could've seen through all of that crap when we were 15 or 14?
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:32 am to Cap Crunch
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Oh well not every episode can be great. Looks like Arya may finally be heading back to Westeros which would be nice.
Arya just wasted two seasons trying to become a faceless man, and then on her first assignment she says "Nah, never mind." Because she talked to her victim for 5 minutes...
This episode wasn't a facepalm. It was a bang my head on the coffee table repeatedly.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:34 am to Stonehog
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Arya just wasted two seasons trying to become a faceless man, and then on her first assignment she says "Nah, never mind." Because she talked to her victim for 5 minutes...
i agree lots of time is wasted (which is much easier in 1,000 page books than a 10-episode/season series)
but what we want/want to be doesn't always end up being what we actually do enjoy being
if she remained a faceless man she would have been wasted and boring for the remainder of the series
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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what about Cersei and her constantly failing plans makes you say it "flies in the face" of her character?
She's able to bring the Mountain back from the dead and get him to do her bidding, but can't kill one old man who has brainwashed her only remaining child and taken over the city. Defend it if you want, I'll just call it bad writing. I still like the show, I just disagree with many of the things the writers are doing right now. We need some satisfaction SOMEWHERE because a lot of the storylines are just spinning their wheels.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:41 am to Stonehog
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She's able to bring the Mountain back from the dead
no that was qyburn
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but can't kill one old man who has brainwashed her only remaining child and taken over the city.
how, exactly, would she go about doing this?
and she's saving ser robert for her trial by combat
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Defend it if you want, I'll just call it bad writing.
and you're wrong
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We need some satisfaction SOMEWHERE because a lot of the storylines are just spinning their wheels.
i don't know what else you expect out of kings landing, the land of political intrigue (and family drama). what are we getting? political intrigue and family drama. that's not "spinning"
i don't get what y'all want other than fighting fighting fighting
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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don't get what y'all want other than fighting fighting fighting
Episodes that actually lead somewhere
We have spent the last 2 seasons in circles - faceless Arya was a waste - Dany to mereen only to be back with the dothraki was a giant waste - not to mention she seems to make the same speeches every episode
Gilly and Sam had a purpose in getting the valyrian sword but good Lord that was half the episode
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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She's able to bring the Mountain back from the dead
no that was qyburn
No shite. It was her plan to raise him from the dead and she accomplished it. Let's not piddle in semantics.
And this from yesterday:
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did you see the crowd?
Why do you think the Tyrell army was there in the first place?! The crowd came to see Margaery's chooch and throw mud on her tits, and the Tyrell's were there to physically stop that from happening. You don't think they were prepared to kill some peasants?
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:55 am to Stonehog
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It's dumb and frustrating because it flies in the face of everything we know about the Lannisters.
Well for four seasons Tywin was the one who moved the chess pieces and directed the Lannisters. Clearly, he was the brains of the operation. Jaime and Cersei have always been impetuous and acted on impulse. Is it really a surprise someone smarter is out maneuvering them?
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Defend it if you want, I'll just call it bad writing.
and you're wrong
Awesome debate tactic, by the way. You've totally convinced me.
I thought the Hodor time loop was a brilliant piece of writing. It's possible to not like EVERYTHING about the show.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:01 am to HailToTheChiz
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Episodes that actually lead somewhere
you mean like fitting pieces together in a traditional, linear plot?
isn't characters doing non-traditional things kind of what made GOT so special and interesting?
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faceless Arya was a waste
well i agree they could have been more conservative with her time, especially if tihs was the result. but arya rejecting the faceless men and going back on her own is the opposite of not leading anywhere. now we have a new story for her to create while avoiding assassins. that's pretty interesting
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Dany to mereen only to be back with the dothraki
yeah i'm not going to defend anything dany-related
they want SO MUCH to make her the central figure and it's just not working (and hasn't for years)
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Gilly and Sam had a purpose in getting the valyrian sword but good Lord that was half the episode
but it wasn't a waste and certainly led somewhere
you got to see a new area of westeros and meet the great randall tarley
i'm not the biggest sam fan, but you did get to see a lot of what made sam, sam. he does provide a certain POV for the world that adds to the plot (esp now that he's out and about and not just being jon's bff). they can take that storyline in lots of ways and i'm curious where it goes (and if it plays a part in something larger).
i'm not going to complain about seeing more of the world on different levels
we also got some major movement in the riverlands, which is big (for both the war with KL and the north storyline). the riverlands kind of is a lynchpin for the westerosi conflict
i know this isn't popular here, but KL is really interesting again (finally). lots of conflict and layers of conflict. you have the 2 most powerful houses in westeros utterly defeated and in a power struggle for not only their family, but their very power and importance generally. the trial of cersei probably makes all of that conflict boil over
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:02 am to RandySavage
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1. Episode was weak only take away is that maybe Arya's story won't continue to suck but if she really is just leaving then wtf was the point of everything she did for the last two seasons?
Ok, what was the point of Bruce Wayne training with the League of Shadows if he was just going to leave them? It's actually crazy how close her story is similar to Batman Begins.
Arya's parents were murdered. She wanted revenge for her family. She gets taken in by a charismatic leader of a cult. She gets training that will be very helpful on her quest to get the revenge she wants. She is given a test she can't complete. She realizes the cult is a cult and sets out to leave. At this point I'll be surprised if she doesn't burn down the House of Black and White, kill the waif, save Jaquen, and head back to Westros to only later have to kill Jaquen.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:04 am to Stonehog
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Why do you think the Tyrell army was there in the first place?! The crowd came to see Margaery's chooch and throw mud on her tits, and the Tyrell's were there to physically stop that from happening. You don't think they were prepared to kill some peasants?
sure, but it's not like they win if they start a civil war and possibly put margery in danger
the thing about the HS is that he knows (1) how nobles will react and (2) how the common man will react. he's playing these powerful, noble houses like a fiddle b/c they're so transparent. he's flipping the script on what was once our symbol of power in westeros and that's great conflict. the nobles aren't as smart and calculating as they think they are (especially cersei, which has been long established)
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:06 am to Stonehog
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It's possible to not like EVERYTHING about the show.
i was the huge villain of this thread series earlier this season when i was critical of the early episodes this season
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
Margery was gonna "ride it out" but after seeing her brother an inch from breaking she had to give in to the HS. IMO she's got a bigger plan to deal with the HS but saving her brother was a higher priority. I bet she'll be the one that kills him. I'm not sure if Tomin knows what she is doing, it's prob better to keep that little kid in the dark.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:22 am to LSUGlory16
i thought for a sec that loris was going to be the new convert
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