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re: Game of Thrones S6:E10:"The Winds of Winter", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:33 am to
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:33 am to
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Sorry if this has already been covered in this thread, but upon rewatching, when Lyanna starts to whisper to Ned about the baby, it looks like she starts by saying "his name is A----"

Looks like she named him something that starts with an A. Am I wrong in this? Does this possibly give credence to any other significance/possible theory about Jon?


No, she could have given him a distinctive Targaryian name that starts with and "A" and Ned figures, lets not make this too obvious, go with "Jon"
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:49 am to
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In all the epicness of this finale, I feel like the best exchange of the night came courtesy of Bronn, probably the character with the highest gold to line ratio for sneaking a jab at Jamie when he said the servant girls weren't his type. Bronn hits him with, "Not blond enough?"

The look on Jamie's face was absolutely priceless.
Bronn and Pod are really underrated characters.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:49 am to
Watched this episode yesterday. Easily the best season finale of the show. Really, really great television these last two or three weeks from GoT.

Things are finally starting to fall into place with main characters moving and dying, and storylines converging and things getting less complicated.

Pumped to see where things are headed, and now that Dany is finally headed to Westeros I am hoping that we are finally done with any-and-everything "across the narrow sea."
Posted by Contender54
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:57 am to
It wouldn't surprise me if Jamie is the one who takes out Cersie.

Also, I predict they die at the same time, seeing as to how they "came into the world" together. They'll go out at the same time.
Posted by navy
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:06 am to
A few observations and unanswered questions.


Do not wish to start another thread ... so, this is not just about "The Winds of Winter."



1) At the end of BoB, when Sansa told Ramsay that he'd said himself that his hounds had not been fed for a week .... well ... Sansa actually had ridden off BEFORE Ramsey said anything about his hounds ... so, unless someone told her what he'd said ... how did she know that?


2) At Winterfell, after BoB, Jon said to bury Rickon next to his "father" (i.e. Ned). Now ... maybe I missed something ... but didn't Joffrey put Ned Stark's head on a spike (and taunt Sansa with it)? Did the Stark's somehow negotiate to get Ned's body back to bury him at Winterfell? If yes ... I guess I missed/Hodor'ed that.


3) Did Cersei kill Uncle Kevan out of pure hatred since he was a punk to her at the Council? I can see whacking all the others (damn shame that Margery did not take the walk of atonement ... wanted to see those titties again) ... it would seem rather foolish to whack more Lannisters than necessary.




Loras Sorass Tyrell ... what a bitch ... could have gone out like a boss and told them all to go frick themselves ... but, shamed himself further, got head-carved up, and still got blown the frick up. Ranks up there with the weakest GoT deaths.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:10 am to
(Thought this was BR thread)
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 8:11 am
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:11 am to
quote:

1) At the end of BoB, when Sansa told Ramsay that he'd said himself that his hounds had not been fed for a week .... well ... Sansa actually had ridden off BEFORE Ramsey said anything about his hounds ... so, unless someone told her what he'd said ... how did she know that?


He said in the letter he was not feeding them.

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2) At Winterfell, after BoB, Jon said to bury Rickon next to his "father" (i.e. Ned). Now ... maybe I missed something ... but didn't Joffrey put Ned Stark's head on a spike (and taunt Sansa with it)? Did the Stark's somehow negotiate to get Ned's body back to bury him at Winterfell? If yes ... I guess I missed/Hodor'ed that.


You can still bury a body without a head. Just let it go.

quote:

3) Did Cersei kill Uncle Kevan out of pure hatred since he was a punk to her at the Council? I can see whacking all the others (damn shame that Margery did not take the walk of atonement ... wanted to see those titties again) ... it would seem rather foolish to whack more Lannisters than necessary.


I think at that point she just didnt give a frick. Plus it would be tough to have him not attend.
Posted by navy
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:15 am to
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He said in the letter he was not feeding them.




OK thanks. Appreciate that.

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You can still bury a body without a head. Just let it go.



Hell ... how did Jon know that Ned is even buried there? He'd just walked in the damn place.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:18 am to
Sansa could have easily told him while they were at castle black catching up
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:18 am to
So is the mountain's head Ned Stark?

And if so, is that evil shame nun Lyanna Stark? Do we know for a fact she died? She screams bloody murder when she sees the Mountain's face, he doesn't even hurt her.
She just has to look at this familiar, loved face for hours on this monster.

Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:26 am to
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I do think Jamie will lead the Lanister army against Dany's forces, but after finding out Tyrion is on Dany's side he'll turn on Cersi. It's either that or Cersi will try to create more Wildfire and blow up all of Kings Landing after Dany's forces crush her army forcing Jamie to become Queenslayer

I think that's Jaime's character arc.

I don't think Jaime's forces will be "crushed" as such- he'll do well; but they will be stretched out and outnumbered on multiple different fronts, and the Lannisters will be losing men they just can't afford to.
Example- they repel a Dornish incursion in one area to the East, but not have enough troops to hold the areas afterwards, because Jaime has to send forces to the West to resist an Unsullied siege. This leaves yet another stretch of land pretty open, and the Dothraki sweep through unopposed and cut somewhere off.

I think Jaime will become increasingly grim as the losses mount, and Cersei ratchets up a scorched earth policy.

And yes, I suspect eventually Dany and Tyrion will be at the gates of Kings Landing, Cersei will order the destruction of the city, and Jaime takes her out. I think Bronn will be sent to fight to the end (Cersei's orders), but Jaime's orders will be to surrender to Tyrion as he deals with Cersei.

I think when he does, it will be a classic lover's murder-suicide, and Tyrion will be the one to find his dead siblings.
Posted by MardiGrasRazorback
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:32 am to
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I just rewatched tonight and I think she's saying Jon. And the view cuts to adult Jon, so


I don't think he's saying the baby isn't Jon. I think the thought is that Lyanna didn't name the baby Jon. Ned gave him that name, after Jon Aryn, his foster father. I don't think the whisper looks like "Jon," either.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:58 am to
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So is the mountain's head Ned Stark?

And if so, is that evil shame nun Lyanna Stark? Do we know for a fact she died? She screams bloody murder when she sees the Mountain's face, he doesn't even hurt her.
She just has to look at this familiar, loved face for hours on this monster.

wut wut
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:59 am to
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So is the mountain's head Ned Stark?

And if so, is that evil shame nun Lyanna Stark? Do we know for a fact she died? She screams bloody murder when she sees the Mountain's face, he doesn't even hurt her.
She just has to look at this familiar, loved face for hours on this monster.




I dont even.....
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:06 am to
quote:

So is the mountain's head Ned Stark? And if so, is that evil shame nun Lyanna Stark? Do we know for a fact she died? She screams bloody murder when she sees the Mountain's face, he doesn't even hurt her. She just has to look at this familiar, loved face for hours on this monster]



Maybe power rangers is more up to your speed
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:14 am to
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So is the mountain's head Ned Stark?

And if so, is that evil shame nun Lyanna Stark? Do we know for a fact she died? She screams bloody murder when she sees the Mountain's face, he doesn't even hurt her.
She just has to look at this familiar, loved face for hours on this monster.



Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:37 am to
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So is the mountain's head Ned Stark?

Awesome.
quote:

nd if so, is that evil shame nun Lyanna Stark? Do we know for a fact she died? She screams bloody murder when she sees the Mountain's face, he doesn't even hurt her.
She just has to look at this familiar, loved face for hours on this monster.



Solid troll (I hope).
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:38 am to
I literally laughed out loud in class. Nothing too much but it was uncontrollable.
Posted by Nation of Buga
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:47 am to
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2) At Winterfell, after BoB, Jon said to bury Rickon next to his "father" (i.e. Ned). Now ... maybe I missed something ... but didn't Joffrey put Ned Stark's head on a spike (and taunt Sansa with it)? Did the Stark's somehow negotiate to get Ned's body back to bury him at Winterfell? If yes ... I guess I missed/Hodor'ed that.


Littlefinger brought Ned's remains to Catelyn (in the trunk she opens up) when she went to talk to Renley for Robb. I think it was the same night Renley got stabbed by the demon baby.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 9:52 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:53 am to
You're welcome
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