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re: Game of Thrones S6:E10:"The Winds of Winter", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:55 am to
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:55 am to
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No, she could have given him a distinctive Targaryian name that starts with and "A" and Ned figures, lets not make this too obvious, go with "Jon"

Yeah, that's what I figured as well.

Just seems strange she'd give him a Targaryen name knowing full-well that Robert would want him killed.
Posted by freeagent
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:59 am to
Yeah I seemed to recall some sort of barter or just good faith of getting Ned's remains back to the Stark camp, but I wasn't sure
Posted by PatDyesPants
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:06 am to
The Mountain without his helm

Posted by rondo
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:09 am to
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3) Did Cersei kill Uncle Kevan out of pure hatred since he was a punk to her at the Council? I can see whacking all the others (damn shame that Margery did not take the walk of atonement ... wanted to see those titties again) ... it would seem rather foolish to whack more Lannisters than necessary.



I think she didn't like him...but I think his death was just a sidebar to what she was trying to do...Not her fault he was in there.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:18 am to
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Littlefinger brought Ned's remains to Catelyn (in the trunk she opens up)

Correct. Here is that scene.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:47 am to
I don't think cersei gives two shits about anybody but herself. If she ever did, she doesn't anymore.
So I don't think it mattered who was in there when she blew it up. She kept Tommen out, but also made sure he saw what she did. She knew he was weak and he had just betrayed her, it was punishment for him as well.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:02 pm to
Maybe. I feel like she knew the prophecy of all her children dying before her was coming true, so she knew Tommen's death to be inevitable.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:05 pm to
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I don't think cersei gives two shits about anybody but herself.

I agree with that, but would also throw Jaime in there as well. And he feels the same way (although if you had to pick one that was more on the hook, it's easily Jaime).

For a minute I thought she was gonna kill her own son. But in the end she was just keeping him out of the Sept.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:56 pm to
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I don't think cersei gives two shits about anybody but herself.

I agree with that, but would also throw Jaime in there as well. And he feels the same way
I'd say Cersei only cares about Cersei at this point, and also that Jaime only cares about Cersei.

I think they both cared about their kids, Cersei in a more controlling manner, but still very devoted. Jaime didn't seem to take interest until the daughter, and when he finally did, she was murdered in front of him.
Posted by volod
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:49 pm to
This might need its own thread, but here it goes

I dont see how the Lannisters are going to survive the upcoming war unless its an ASSPULL.

Enemies :

House Tyrell

Martell Forces (even though the Sandsnakes ruling is a plot hole)

House Targaryen (Dragons, Unsullied, 2nd Sons, Dorthraki)

At least half of House Greyjoy


People who are NOT ALLIES:

The North (after all the Lannisters have done )

The Stormlanders (why have they not said anything??
)

The Vale (Unless LF has some "sympathy")


Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:06 pm to
watched it at a friends house. HOLY shite !!!!

Why did Cersei have to kill margary? We all loved her.

It was cool to see the sparrows die, but she pissed off the tyrells. I hope cersei gets raped. the mountain destroying that faith bitch was cool. How does Cersei become Queen again? Wouldnt someone else be King? You have to feel bad for tommen. His brother, father, sister, and now his wife.

How can any army take danerys? Catapults? ballistae?
Tyrells with dorne. Greyjoys.

I think now is time for Gendry to return !!!


How can Cersei get away with killing so many people?
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:53 pm to
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Boo Krewe



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Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:23 pm to
Thinking about it (I posted in another thread), we're missing the bigger connection with the story.

Benjen can't cross the Wall, he tells Bran that. The Night's King can't either, so it implies.
We think Bran will cross, and open it up... but he should know better than to do so, since he and Meera know exactly why the Night's King could attack the Three Eyed Raven, after not being able to before. There's no way anyone sane would break the spells at the Wall. Heck, Meera should cut his throat if he tried, because it would mean the end of Westeros.

But Cersei is now in power, and she's damn close to the edge already. She was always on the shady side of crazy, and now she has lost all her kids, the only thing that kept her somewhat grounded. She didn't just assassinate a random religious extremist, she blew up the High Septon and the big cathedral at the heart of the city. It would be like nuking the Vatican... so she's clearly done with the Gods. Old, New, Lord of Light, you name it- she's done with them.

She's already more than dabbling with some dark shite with Zombie Mountain. If Qybern or whatever his name knew how to do that, he might also have access to whatever spells hold the Wall, and how to break it.

If/when she gets cornered with no way out (and if we think of a conventional war, there's really no other outcome at this point), she may well decide to push the nuclear button and end it all- take down the Wall and let the Night's King in.
If she's going down, everyone is.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:27 pm to
Who knows Cersai was behind it? I'm sure she didn't broadcast it and there isn't exactly an FBI or newspaper to ferret out the truth.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:28 pm to
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How can Cersei get away with killing so many people?
Who is left to stop her?

I would assume that all the High Level Lords and Ladies were at trial.

Trial of the century. No way anyone would miss it. Especially her enemies.

Other than the surviving children of the dead Lords, I doubt she has an enemy within 100 miles of the city.



Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:31 pm to
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I doubt she has an enemy within 100 miles of the city.


Varys could knock that out in about 30 min
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:50 am to
Posted by LewDawg
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:26 am to
So Bran forever changed time when he interrupted Ned's climbing of the stairs at the Tower of Joy?


I guess he can do that because time was forever changed due to his/events' influence on Hodor in past and present.



Does this mean Bran can go back and undo his falling and palyzation? And change the whole outlook on the state of Westeros?

Or does that fall into "it will always happen"?


And could any Warg become a Three-eyed Raven? Or only Wargs that are really good or chosen ones?
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:42 am to
Bran will attempt to change time bt talking the Mad King out of going crazy.. but his whispers to the Mad King will be what makes him mad
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 9:44 am
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