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re: Game Of Thrones S5:E10 "Mother's Mercy" BOOK READER THREAD

Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:14 pm to
I really hate what they did to Stannis's character, he was an honest and honorable guy that was doing what he thought was right.

In 2 episodes he became a shitty, power hungry, child killing POS and then died.

I actually hope the book is different than the show
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:16 pm to


fricking shitty arse gif maker. frick
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This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 10:20 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:17 pm to
I doubt it will be much different

It's a classic "power corrupts" storyline
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

I really hate what they did to Stannis's character, he was an honest and honorable guy that was doing what he thought was right.


An honest and honorable guy that denounced whatever religion he had just so he could get some red pussy. Also stood by while she killed his maester and had Davos locked up in the dungeons just because.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:17 pm to
So I guess Robert's bastards are all that remains of the Baratheon line after tonight... Good news for Gendry, or more like bad news.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Wasted your time? So that would all of a sudden make all those hours spent reading the books and watching the show not entertaining and interesting? Not likely.


There's been a lot of pages focused on building Jon up to be something that he's not on the surface through his chapters as well as the chapters of others (i.e. the wargings, the resurrections, the speculation of his parents, etc).

Yes, it would have been a waste. Still enjoyable to read, but he could've filled those pages with story telling that actually reinforces the overall arc.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16253 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

Yes, it would have been a waste. Still enjoyable to read, but he could've filled those pages with story telling that actually reinforces the overall arc.

If Snow is permanently dead, then I'm betting the only overall arc will turn out to be the Others running roughshod over Westeros killing everyone, and GRRM giving all of his book readers a big
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:21 pm to
It's almost insulting we're actually debating if Jon is coming back or not.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116167 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

It's almost insulting we're actually debating if Jon is coming back or not.


You gotta give props to the show runners for how they played it. It worked perfectly. They did the impossible
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:22 pm to
Yeah rewatching I'm not so sure Stannis is dead. His final words "do your duty" probably saved him.

It's not like this show to NOT show a major death on screen.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16253 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

You gotta give props to the show runners for how they played it. It worked perfectly. They did the impossible

How are the book readers in full meltdown? We've known this ending for how long? ...
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:24 pm to
Because we've seen them change enough shite in the show that we put nothing past killing Jon Snow off for good.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:25 pm to
Was anyone else sitting there anxiously waiting for Jon's eyes to roll back in his head?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130242 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:25 pm to
Like I said he's not permanently dead. Anyone who thinks so is retarded.

There's Always a method to GRRM's madness when it comes to actual deaths.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107994 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:26 pm to
I was waiting for the warg moment.

Maybe that'll be the opening for next season.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116167 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Yeah rewatching I'm not so sure Stannis is dead. His final words "do your duty" probably saved him.


What? Why would that save him from someone that's been trying to kill him for 4 seasons?

If Trant would've muttered "do your duty", do you think Arya would've given him mercy?
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Yeah rewatching I'm not so sure Stannis is dead. His final words "do your duty" probably saved him.



Her duty being save Sansa, not kill Stannis?
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:26 pm to
With all the discussion about Jon and Stannis, here's a thought that we may be overlooking:

What if either A) Bron kept some of that antidote or, more likely B) That tit showing Sand Snake slipped him some of it when she was nibbling on his ear?

Definitely seemed to be the same poison - with the bleeding from the nose and all.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41908 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:27 pm to
still think he'll be revived but...

quote:

I was talking to Dan Weiss and he said Jon is really dead. But George R.R. Martin left open the possibility the character might not be dead in the books. And then that cast salary contract story came out last year and it had your name among those receiving raises for season six and an option on a seventh. So let me ask you: Is Jon really dead?
This is my understanding of it. I had a sit-down with Dan and David, we did the Tony Soprano walk [letting an actor know they’re being whacked]. And they said, “Look, you’re gone, it’s done.” And as far as the salary thing goes, that angered me when that story came out. I don’t know where it came from, but it was inaccurate in many ways. It’s going to put questions into your head and into fans’ heads that things are not what they are. Quite honestly, I have never been told the future of things in this show, but this is the one time I have. They sat me down and said, “This is how it is.” If anything in the future is not like that, then I don’t know about it – it’s only in David and Dan and George’s heads. But I’ve been told I’m dead. I’m dead. I’m not coming back next season. So that’s all I can tell you, really.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116167 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Was anyone else sitting there anxiously waiting for Jon's eyes to roll back in his head?


Me. That was such a long sequence I thought it was for sure going to happen
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