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re: Game of Thrones S4:E4 "Oathkeeper" A Meltdown for Book Maesters (SPOILERS)
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:07 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:07 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
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Also keep in mind there were 13 walkers in this scene. The night's king was the 13th lord commander, and reigned for 13 years.
Mind=blown
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:07 pm to Methuselah
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fact that he was from "tin alley" had
Gin alley
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:08 pm to fr33manator
I'm curious as well. I thought it was a pretty good episode and moved some storylines forward too.
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:09 pm to Methuselah
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Seems like Jamie jumped right back on his redemption track after last week
Might be needed to show a disconnect between he and cersei.
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:10 pm to guedeaux
ending of Dream of Spring confirmed:
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:10 pm to fr33manator
I can't believe they revealed the Night's King.
Tin foiled hats will be in full force this week
Tin foiled hats will be in full force this week
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:13 pm to ladytiger118
If you count the baby then that makes 14 total white walkers. 14 fires of Valyria.
The Song of ICE and FIRE
The Song of ICE and FIRE
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:15 pm to Samso
When are they going to show the Mountain again? I felt sure that this season they'd use the Arya and the Hound to make the Mountain seem more fearful again, but they really haven't. They've brought him up, but I doubt half the Hodors remember who he is.
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:18 pm to OMLandshark
Good question. They can do it quickly though, I mean they brought up Dontos in one episode. I bet he arrives in kings landing next episode though.
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
Okay, I'm about to watch it now. Jeez. I read the thread first, lol
Spoiled myself.
Looks like it won't follow the books.
Spoiled myself.
Looks like it won't follow the books.
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:20 pm to ladytiger118
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Also keep in mind there were 13 walkers in this scene. The night's king was the 13th lord commander, and reigned for 13 years.
I'm confused on how the two relate though. I am not sure that the night's king and the great other are one in the same. The night's king was a stark of winterfell, brother to the king in the north, and was Lord Commander AFTER the wall was built. Obviously this tells us that the great other was already out there.
All we are told about the night's king is that he basically fell in love with an other and "when he gave her his seed he also gave his soul". We also know that his name was Bran. We don't even know that he became an other. Thirteen years later, the king beyond the wall and the king in the north overthrew his small kingdom at the night fort.
Given what we know I'm saying the great other, who we saw tonight, is not the nights king. The great other is also a god, and has existed since way before the wall was built.
It is interesting that there are 13, I'm just not sure the number is significant to the plot. 13 is also often associated with evil or bad luck, so maybe it just seemed like the appropriate number. There were also 10 stones around the alter, we aren't drawing conclusions from that though.
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If you count the baby then that makes 14 total white walkers. 14 fires of Valyria. The Song of ICE and FIRE
And if we account for all the others that were stolen away over the past few thousand years who the hell knows. This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:20 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
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If you count the baby then that makes 14 total white walkers. 14 fires of Valyria. The Song of ICE and FIRE
What about the other babies that were sacrificed?
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:21 pm to skirpnasty
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Given what we know I'm saying the great other, who we saw tonight, is not the nights king
HBO confirmed it was
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:22 pm to skirpnasty
The 13 is a hint to confirm to readers that he is indeed the Night's King. Hbo later on confirmed it for everyone on the show synopsis
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:23 pm to fr33manator
I for one welcome our new mysterious overlords
This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:25 pm to fr33manator
Of course there are more white walkers. The 13 and 14 was just a nod to readers as to who it was we were seeing and their relation to the series
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:26 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Episode was good not great
I despise Dany but seeing the Targaryen banner was pretty cool.
Locke is going to get captured by the others.
I despise Dany but seeing the Targaryen banner was pretty cool.
Locke is going to get captured by the others.
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:28 pm to Samso
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:29 pm to Samso
If you are familiar with the wiki of ice and fire then you know who Ran is. He created westeros.org and co-authored TWOIAF with GRRM and helps GRRM with keeping up a database for GRRM to fact check himself quickly. He just posted this on awoiaf:
"Well, color me surprised. While I did speculate the figure _might_ be a king, and even noted the 13 figures, I didn't think some random yahoo at HBO writing up their viewer's guide would insert the idea that it's _the_ Night's King.
It is always possible that whoever wrote the guide has taken extra-textual license, and this may end up changing if that detail was not what was intended (or at least was not intended to be revealed). Will be interesting to see if it changes in the next few days."
"Well, color me surprised. While I did speculate the figure _might_ be a king, and even noted the 13 figures, I didn't think some random yahoo at HBO writing up their viewer's guide would insert the idea that it's _the_ Night's King.
It is always possible that whoever wrote the guide has taken extra-textual license, and this may end up changing if that detail was not what was intended (or at least was not intended to be revealed). Will be interesting to see if it changes in the next few days."
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:31 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
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"Well, color me surprised. While I did speculate the figure _might_ be a king, and even noted the 13 figures, I didn't think some random yahoo at HBO writing up their viewer's guide would insert the idea that it's _the_ Night's King.
It is always possible that whoever wrote the guide has taken extra-textual license, and this may end up changing if that detail was not what was intended (or at least was not intended to be revealed). Will be interesting to see if it changes in the next few days."
boom
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