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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:13 am to Roger Klarvin
was just able to watch and finish the episode.
THANK YOU, Game of Thrones.
Ive been waiting for that for 4 seasons.
maybe he was just allergic to doves. good luck tyrion. Kingslayer.
THANK YOU, Game of Thrones.
Ive been waiting for that for 4 seasons.
maybe he was just allergic to doves. good luck tyrion. Kingslayer.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:19 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:16 am to wish i was tebow
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Watching him in a different show or movie is going to be impossible
he's done acting
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:27 am to SEClint
There was dove blood in the pie after his dumbass chopped it up with the sword.
If it was the pie that killed him it could have been anyone.
If it was the pie that killed him it could have been anyone.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:25 am to More beer please
Just watched the episode and just wow... I got spoiled and knew Joffrey was gonna die thanks to twitter a few weeks back, but watching him croak was still great to see.
Love everyone theories also..pretty interested to find out who actually offed Joffrey and all the hands that planned it.
My first thought was that Sansa was the culprit,sinse the cup rolled by her after Joffrey kicked it. Plus "The Fool" insisting she leaves if she wants to live. I think "The Fool" saw that Tyrion was going to take the fall and Cersei would implicate Sansa as well. The Fool I think was saving Sansa's life as she had saved his.
Dont think Prince Oberyn had anything to do with it. Oberyn seems hell bent on "settling the Lannister debt" by killing Tywin and/or The Mountain. Dont think Joffrey was included inhis plan, but watching him die gave him some satisfaction for sure.
Grandma Tyrell, maybe with the whole necklace thing, but why kill Joffrey and lose the crown that was just given to Margery? Just doesnt seem like a good move. Once Joffrey is dead, the crown passes to his little brother correct?
Think there is a double reverse going on. Too much forshadowing in my opinion makes it seems as of the Tyrell's are behind the killing of Joffrey, but I think someway somehow that Joffrey was killed by Tywin. The whole reception scene, he says nothing. Just sits there stoic as if he knows the terror of his grandson will be shortly over. Does he even run to Joffrey's aid when he fall to the ground? Is it possible that Tywin killed Joffrey in some sort of backroom deal to get out debt with the bank of Braavos? Tywin loves his family, but if killing Joffrey settles their debt and prevents the Bank of Braavos from "funding their enemies", which in turn allows the Lannisters to feel pretty good about keeping the crown for that much longer. Tywin is a smart and calculated man, I dont put it past him to come up with this type of plot
Joffrey could have very well removed Tywin as the Hand of the King soon, as he did with Tyrion. With Joffrey gone, Tywin is now firmly in charge of Kings Landing and can then mold Tommen into the king that he wanted Joffrey to be. Dont think he cared a bit how Joffrey's death will affect Cersei, he has already shown that by attemtping to marry her off to Loras, he could care less what she thinks.
Love everyone theories also..pretty interested to find out who actually offed Joffrey and all the hands that planned it.
My first thought was that Sansa was the culprit,sinse the cup rolled by her after Joffrey kicked it. Plus "The Fool" insisting she leaves if she wants to live. I think "The Fool" saw that Tyrion was going to take the fall and Cersei would implicate Sansa as well. The Fool I think was saving Sansa's life as she had saved his.
Dont think Prince Oberyn had anything to do with it. Oberyn seems hell bent on "settling the Lannister debt" by killing Tywin and/or The Mountain. Dont think Joffrey was included inhis plan, but watching him die gave him some satisfaction for sure.
Grandma Tyrell, maybe with the whole necklace thing, but why kill Joffrey and lose the crown that was just given to Margery? Just doesnt seem like a good move. Once Joffrey is dead, the crown passes to his little brother correct?
Think there is a double reverse going on. Too much forshadowing in my opinion makes it seems as of the Tyrell's are behind the killing of Joffrey, but I think someway somehow that Joffrey was killed by Tywin. The whole reception scene, he says nothing. Just sits there stoic as if he knows the terror of his grandson will be shortly over. Does he even run to Joffrey's aid when he fall to the ground? Is it possible that Tywin killed Joffrey in some sort of backroom deal to get out debt with the bank of Braavos? Tywin loves his family, but if killing Joffrey settles their debt and prevents the Bank of Braavos from "funding their enemies", which in turn allows the Lannisters to feel pretty good about keeping the crown for that much longer. Tywin is a smart and calculated man, I dont put it past him to come up with this type of plot
Joffrey could have very well removed Tywin as the Hand of the King soon, as he did with Tyrion. With Joffrey gone, Tywin is now firmly in charge of Kings Landing and can then mold Tommen into the king that he wanted Joffrey to be. Dont think he cared a bit how Joffrey's death will affect Cersei, he has already shown that by attemtping to marry her off to Loras, he could care less what she thinks.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:40 am to MrBiriwa
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Is it possible that Tywin killed Joffrey in some sort of backroom deal to get out debt with the bank of Braavos? Tywin loves his family, but if killing Joffrey settles their debt and prevents the Bank of Braavos from "funding their enemies", which in turn allows the Lannisters to feel pretty good about keeping the crown for that much longer. Tywin is a smart and calculated man, I dont put it past him to come up with this type of plot
Joffrey could have very well removed Tywin as the Hand of the King soon, as he did with Tyrion. With Joffrey gone, Tywin is now firmly in charge of Kings Landing and can then mold Tommen into the king that he wanted Joffrey to be. Dont think he cared a bit how Joffrey's death will affect Cersei, he has already shown that by attemtping to marry her off to Loras, he could care less what she thinks.
This sums up what I was thinking during my re-watch, expecially since they showed that part where Tywin and Grandma Tyrell were talking about the Iron Bank. We'll see.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:45 am to MrBiriwa
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Think there is a double reverse going on. Too much forshadowing in my opinion makes it seems as of the Tyrell's are behind the killing of Joffrey, but I think someway somehow that Joffrey was killed by Tywin. The whole reception scene, he says nothing. Just sits there stoic as if he knows the terror of his grandson will be shortly over. Does he even run to Joffrey's aid when he fall to the ground? Is it possible that Tywin killed Joffrey in some sort of backroom deal to get out debt with the bank of Braavos? Tywin loves his family, but if killing Joffrey settles their debt and prevents the Bank of Braavos from "funding their enemies", which in turn allows the Lannisters to feel pretty good about keeping the crown for that much longer. Tywin is a smart and calculated man, I dont put it past him to come up with this type of plot Joffrey could have very well removed Tywin as the Hand of the King soon, as he did with Tyrion. With Joffrey gone, Tywin is now firmly in charge of Kings Landing and can then mold Tommen into the king that he wanted Joffrey to be. Dont think he cared a bit how Joffrey's death will affect Cersei, he has already shown that by attemtping to marry her off to Loras, he could care less what she thinks.
Pretty much this is my theory. Tywin masterminded the scheme with Olenna. I hadn't considered the financial angle, however. I just figured it was because Joffrey was a crazy little shite that Tywin couldn't control. He wants to control the throne without actually sitting on it (IMO), so he needed to get rid of Joffrey and put some new little sheep in there. I guess Joffrey's brother?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:35 am to Matisyeezy
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:41 am to mylsuhat
Every time I see Brienne I have to quote Deuce Bigalow.
"Behemoth"
"Hey, keep it in the circus."
"That's a huge bitch."
Anyone else do that?
"Behemoth"
"Hey, keep it in the circus."
"That's a huge bitch."
Anyone else do that?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:50 am to Titus Pullo
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I think You're confusing Dantos, the fool, with the gay second son prince from Dorne.
I sure was. Jesus it's hard to keep up with names sometimes
After my initial watch I thought for sure Dorne had something to do with it given his talk with Tyrion last episode and then his talk with Cersei and Tywin yesterday and I knew he wanted revenge for what happened to his family.
But after all the discussion and looking back on it, I think someone at the table makes more sense with the logistics...but then again doesn't make much sense as far as motive goes.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:08 am to Brettesaurus Rex
This thread is really going to suck when they don't give us any additional clues as to who did it next episode.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:08 am to Brettesaurus Rex
So who is in charge, king/queen etc at this point now? I'm trying to keep up here
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:43 am to 40 Rouge
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This sums up what I was thinking during my re-watch, expecially since they showed that part where Tywin and Grandma Tyrell were talking about the Iron Bank. We'll see.
Yeah, I'm surprised it took until page 38 for this to be brought up. Grandma Tyrell and Tywin have had multiple conversations that the audience wasn't fully privy to. I see 2 problems with this theory though. First, what do the Tyrells get out of it that's better than Margaery being queen? Second, Tywin would want someone to take the fall for this but not a Lannister. Sansa certainly looks like a patsy, but if Sansa was set up, why did the fool save her? Did he know he was setting her up and felt bad about it in the end so saved her? It could also be part of setting her up as others have said, running would make her look guilty. Maybe Grandma Tyrell will take her back to High Garden and hide her.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:50 am to TigerinATL
I think rickon was heading to castle black where Jon snow is
Edit I did spell that right
Edit I did spell that right
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:51 am to Stonehog
quote:
That's a huge bitch."
every time she's on screen...
And Also to the girl in target this past weekend that was easily 6'8"
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:54 am to Phil A Sheo
Austin Powers comes to mind sometimes too:
That's a man baby!
Well, no offense, but if that is a woman it looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick
That's a man baby!
Well, no offense, but if that is a woman it looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:02 pm to saintsfan92612
Great episode. It was a beautiful death.
IMO the cup was laced after he ,Joffrey,dropped it. The only two people who touched it were Sansa and Tyrion . However the fool came from behind Sansa to "save" her so he easily could have switched it. I'm ruling out Sansa as a assassin mastermind and the fool is just the proxy. So who stands to gain the most? Tywin. But Joffrey is a Lannister and I don't see him offing family. Hell he didn't kill Tyrion as an infant.
So I guess that means I have no clue.
IMO the cup was laced after he ,Joffrey,dropped it. The only two people who touched it were Sansa and Tyrion . However the fool came from behind Sansa to "save" her so he easily could have switched it. I'm ruling out Sansa as a assassin mastermind and the fool is just the proxy. So who stands to gain the most? Tywin. But Joffrey is a Lannister and I don't see him offing family. Hell he didn't kill Tyrion as an infant.
So I guess that means I have no clue.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:04 pm to winner
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I think rickon was heading to castle black where Jon snow is
Edit I did spell that right
According to the Game of Thrones Wiki, which is supposedly Hodor approved, Bran sent them to the Umber's not the Bolton's so I was mistaken.
quote:
Following the events of that night, Bran arranged for Osha to bring Rickon to the holdfast of Greatjon Umber, the Lord of Last Hearth and the head of House Umber. Lord Umber was a loyal ally of the Starks.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:07 pm to Antiheroaz
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he easily could have switched it.
Has anyone paid attention to see if the cup is the same after it fell under the table?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:09 pm to TigerinATL
I thought when they met with chubby samwell he talked them into going to castle black, but now that I think about it you r right because samwell already made it back to castle black in ep 1 of this season
Too many characters and story lines to keep up with, hodor out
Too many characters and story lines to keep up with, hodor out
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