re: Game of Thrones Ep4-"And Now His Watch Is Ended"**NONBOOK READERS ONLY PLEASE**

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Hell I have read the books,

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then why are you in this thread?? makes no sense

I didn't realize we were totally blacklisted from coming in here. I'm not trying to spoil anything but just wanted to make a point from a bookreaders standpoint. Nevermind, then...

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Jesus. Sometimes people ask questions in here to see what other show watchers have to say. For fricks sake.

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Good to see that readers are still being count and not respecting the nonreader thread. May be time to see if Chicken can sort some of this bullshite out, cuz it's fricking stupid at this point.

Anyway, this episode was legit, and we finally got to see Dany fricking some shite up. And some pretty awesome quotes throughout the episode too.

Note: any of my questions and comments should be ignored by all readers please.

I'm not sure where the whole Jamie/Brienne thing is headed. Part of me likes that Jamie had at least a bit of redemption with trying to help her, but the rest of me loves how cold-blooded he is. Who knows where that's headed. I did like that they showed him at least trying to kick some left-handed arse though. And Brienne needs to shut her fricking mouth...telling him to suck it up? She's talking to him like he lost some money...that's his fricking HAND, bitch. Also cold-blooded that they made his hand into a necklace and make him wear it.

Really liked the Viserys/Tryion scene with the sorcerer. Not only was the story about the sorcerer (and his torturing) cool, but it looks like Varys has a little more badass in him than I ever thought, which is cool.

On the Varys/Sansa thing though...what's his end game with talking to old lady Tyrell and that whole thing? I'm wondering what his play is there..? Kinda confusing if he wants Baelish to get with Sansa (or want to) or if he doesn't want him to. Also, I didn't realize/remember that Littlefinger was supposed to be with the Arryn chick...what was the story with that? She fricking sucks (and so does her kid).

Craster's Keep. Who is the emo dude in the Watch? I don't remember too much from him but he sure as hell bitches a ton. The whole scene with Craster being merked was cool and had me pumped up, though I did really like Mormont and hated to see him die (assuming he does). Sam takes off with Gilly, which we expected to happen...I'm wondering if he will be punished by the Watch (I assume he will).

Every scene with Bran kinda annoys me now. We keep seeing his dreams, but they don't seem to be very informative, neither to the character (Bran) nor to us (the audience). What's the point? I know he's gonna likely be important with his warging thing, but still..

Old lady Tyrell is a massive bitch. But she's still pretty funny though. And Maergery is smart as frick. Even though her character annoys the shite out of me sometimes, it's cool to see her manipulate Joffrey (and him being completely obvivious). Also cool to see Cersei getting jealous and all butthurt about it. And Maergery knows what's up with Sansa and her last name, so she's lezzing out with her in the friend zone and trying to get her to knock boots with Loras so the Tyrells can lay claim to some shite if Robb Stark gets got.

Cersei making a play to Tywin was interesting...she hears the shite old lady Tyrell is saying and realizes that she can maybe make a play to be queen? Not sure what her end game is, but she certainly doesn't seem to be happy about how shite is right now. And Tywin may be my favorite character on the show. He's such a badass:

Cersei: "Maergery is manipulating Joffrey."
Tywin: "Good. I wish you knew how to manipulate him.."


Also hilarious with his "If I did all of that when my midget, a-hole son went missing, what do you think I'm doing to find my oldest son and heir?" line to Cersei when she was asking about Jamie. Tywin is so awesome.

Have we seen Beric Dondarrion before? Sounded familiar, but I don't remember when. Loved the whole Hound scene, and I'm so glad he and Arya are sharing screen time. She's fricking fiesty. And it's cool how Hound sort of respects her for that. "Is the girl the bravest one here..?" Also, Beric was talking about the Lord of the Light several times...are these brotherhood of no banner dudes in line with Stannis's Red Lady bitch?

Dany. frick YES. About time. We all knew it was coming, and it was awesome to see her fricking some shite up finally. Very cool scene, and I like how they waited till the last part of the show to show it. She now has her army and is marching to King's Landing I guess..? Wonder how far away they still are from that place..?

Theon. Really liking this storyline. I had my doubts about old boy that saved him when he started taking the underground tunnels...something just seemed off. And sure enough, he fricked over Theon. Also was cool to see Theon finally admit that he fricked up. He knows that he did the Starks wrong and the whole "I lost my father at King's Landing" and "I made a choice...and I chose wrong" conversation was cool. And now, of course, he finds himself basically back where he was...about to be tortured. I don't feel sorry for him, but it was cool to see him come to grips with some of the shite he's pulled.

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I don't get it either. Hell I have read the books, and I only talk about what happened on the show in these threads.

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I'm not trying to spoil anything but just wanted to make a point from a bookreaders standpoint.

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Jesus tapdancing Christ*, man.

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**NONBOOK READERS ONLY PLEASE**

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1. This thread is for non book-readers only. We don't need any help from book readers in developing our theories.

2. If we ask a question in this thread, it is to generate discussion with other illiterates. If you are a lurking book reader, please do not use a question as an excuse to start posting in this thread.

3. There are two other threads related to this one episode. If you are a book reader, post in those. If you are a non book-reader and want to discuss the show with book readers, please go post in the middle ground thread started by PsychTiger.

4. Book readers: Even if our theories are so absurd and wrong, and you find yourself unable to breathe because you are laughing so hard, please go die in a fire before posting here. Also, even if someone stumbles upon the perfect theory of how shite goes down, please go die in a fire before posting here.

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It really can't be more clear than that. Yet here we are. Amazing.


































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Kinda confusing if he wants Baelish to get with Sansa (or want to) or if he doesn't want him to

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Varys wants to help sansa but doesnt want little finger to help her. He thinks she would marry him and if robb gets killed then Winterfell is hers/his. Varys said Littlefinger would burn the country if he could be king of the ashes



All of these is from the convo between them in last nights episode.




I liked how he said no I actually enjoy Little Finger very much

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what do you think I'm doing to find my oldest son and heir?

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I don't understand this because he is in the Kingsguard and therefore can't marry and takeover right?

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I don't understand this because he is in the Kingsguard and therefore can't marry and takeover right?

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I was thinking this also.. when Tywin said that i was like welllllll....

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Varys said Littlefinger would burn the country if he could be king of the ashes

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I didn't think he said that. I thought he said that he wouldn't care if it burned if it meant he could be king of ashes. I don't think LF would frick all his own shite up.

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I don't understand this because he is in the Kingsguard and therefore can't marry and takeover right?

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I mean heir like family heir (oldest son)...not heir to the throne. Surely even being in the Kinsguard, Jamie can inherit his family's land/wealth/etc., right? (I'm not sure how that all works)

what do you think his "shite" is?


If Robb were to be killed than LF would theoretically have an army. Thats what Varys was saying

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I thought he said that he wouldn't care if it burned if it meant he could be king of ashes

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semantics.

To be king of the ashes you have to burn it

at least my opinion