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re: Game of Thrones: Who should get to kill ________? (spoilers)
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:16 pm to KingSlayer
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:16 pm to KingSlayer
They will let Theon kill Ramsay because it's what casual fans would want.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:20 pm to Fearthehat0307
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there was no weapon, no actual threat made, no resistance and she just willingly married him. situations aren't remotely the same
OK, just because the weapon is right outside the door makes it excusable?
As I said, replace this scenario with Mama June where you're really forced into an arranged marriage and you have to frick her that night, or she's highly implied she'll let a bunch of pit bulls have their way with you. I'm sure you'd change your tune real quickly about this being a rape. This is just misogyny at its finest.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:20 pm to Dr RC
I don't care who kills him, just so everyone gets a taste.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:22 pm to OMLandshark
quote:she chose to get married to him she wasn't forced. whether or not LF would've really let her say no is irrelevant because she didn't say no. she said yes because she wants revenge.
where you're really forced into an arranged marriage
you keep throwing out scenarios that are not similar at all
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:22 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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A husband can rape a wife.
Yes. But, she HAS to SAY "no". She can't just not want it. She needs to SAY IT!!!!
"We" all get to know her 'feelings' because WE are third party voyeurs via television. We get to know the plans and schemes, etc. From Ramsay's point of view:
1) she is a woman in medieval (type) times
2) She MARRIED him that very day
3) She bent over and took him
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How can you honestly argue that that wasn't a rape?!
Because it was NOT rape
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:23 pm to OMLandshark
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As I said, replace this scenario with Mama June where you're really forced into an arranged marriage
Sansa wasn't forced into an arranged marriage. She knowingly chose this marriage to get revenge on the Boltons.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:24 pm to OMLandshark
Pics of Mama June?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:24 pm to blueboy
quote:i loled
Pics of Mama June?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:25 pm to Fearthehat0307
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she chose to get married to him she wasn't forced. whether or not LF would've really let her say no is irrelevant because she didn't say no. she said yes because she wants revenge.
you keep throwing out scenarios that are not similar at all
You're still not getting that Sansa knew she didn't really have a choice in this matter. This is just the times, and if you got in an arranged marriage, you were usually buttered up to make this sound either great or not so bad.
But lets change it, if LF puts a knife to her throat and told Sansa she was going to do it, does that turn it into a rape?
And what about Tyrion having the morals not to have sex with her on their wedding night?
It's a rape. This is simply ridiculous anyone thinks it's not a rape.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:27 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Gonna be a lot of disappointed future husbands in this thread
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:27 pm to OMLandshark
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You're still not getting that Sansa knew she didn't really have a choice in this matter.
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Littlefinger - I won't force you to do anything.
Don't you know by now how much I care for you? Say the word and we turn the horses round, but listen to me.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:29 pm to OMLandshark
quote:i don't believe that
You're still not getting that Sansa knew she didn't really have a choice in this matter
quote:not really sure of this situation legally. if ramsay isn't in on it i don't think it's rape on his part because to his knowledge it's consensual. LF should definitely be charged with something though. we need a lawyer in here
But lets change it, if LF puts a knife to her throat and told Sansa she was going to do it, does that turn it into a rape?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:29 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:Well, I'm not enough of a dork to argue Westerosi law, but if it were a modern court case, dude would be convicted.
i am knighting against false accusations of rape. it's something we should all knight against
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:29 pm to blueboy
quote:absolutely not
but if it were a modern court case, dude would be convicted.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:30 pm to OMLandshark
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Howland Reed, Meera and Jojen's father. If not, Bran, who can see their Weirwoods and communicate through them
Speculation is he is the new sparrow, right? So that message would have to come from KL.
The Bran angle is believable.
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2. I guess Melisandre could see it in the fire and tell him (although I doubt that happens).
I think she has already seen it, but hasn't been able to comprehend what she is seeing yet. It's why he appears so brightly in her fires.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:30 pm to MSMHater
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Speculation is he is the new sparrow, right? So that message would have to come from KL.
That theory is terrible.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:31 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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quote:quote:.
Littlefinger - I won't force you to do anything.
Don't you know by now how much I care for you? Say the word and we turn the horses round, but listen to me
If you think LF was going to actually let Sansa turn around, you're nuts. He had way to much invested in it at that point. He said that in order to manipulate her into going along with his plan.
It was never her plan. It was always his plan.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:32 pm to blueboy
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Well, I'm not enough of a dork to argue Westerosi law, but if it were a modern court case, dude would be convicted.
He has a witness that will say whatever he tells him to say. No way he gets convicted.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:32 pm to Bamatab
quote:that's not really relevant to what we are arguing though.
If you think LF was going to actually let Sansa turn around, you're nuts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:33 pm to Bamatab
I think people are still under the false assumption that LF gives a shite about Sansa and her safety
He wants her for her last name the same way that Boltons do
He wants her for her last name the same way that Boltons do
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