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Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 2:56 pm to
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ahahahaha this guy didn't take the news of Ned dieing to well


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Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 2:59 pm to
That article states that HBO will only make 10 episodes next season. That is a major mistake IMO. As the books get larger as the series continues so does the show. Especially after seeing the ratings climb, I think the return on investment of producing two more episodes for season is well worth it.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:09 pm to
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That article states that HBO will only make 10 episodes next season.


I saw in the comments and in the past on here that the second book may be divided into 2 seasons of 10 eps each. May just be wishful thinking, but I can hope.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:10 pm to
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he's 12 when was the last time you saw a responsible 12 year old. He's a product of the people his loser parents surrounded him with. Down the road he may or may not be better than them, but right now at 12 years old his problem is that he was never trained to lead.


was he born yet, when his older brother died?
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:16 pm to
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Ned is not the main character,


Is there even a main character? Seems to me it's a bunch of characters with no one being more important than the other.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:22 pm to
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was he born yet, when his older brother died?





Joffrey doesn't have an older brother.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:22 pm to
My main characters have always been Jon, Dany, and Tyrion. The rest all have roles to play and are important, but I've always felt the story revolved around those three.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:25 pm to
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older brother



He doesn't have one. Its just him myrcella and tommen and they are all living.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:29 pm to
Book 2 could be done in 10 episodes. There won't be an entire episode spent on setting up the world like in Season 1, and I feel there are a few story lines that could be condensed in Book 2. I won't go into them here for obvious reasons, but I think will start a Season 2 speculation/spoiler thread when Episode 10 airs.

Book 3 would be near impossible to do in 10. They'll have to find a natural breakpoint, and there is one obvious breakpoint in that novel.

Anyway...
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:35 pm to
There is absolutely no way in hell I can see them pulling off book three in ten episodes. Im with you they have to break it off where you and I both know they should or we're going to lose a lot of depth in the story. There is something on every page in that book that moves the story along
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:36 pm to
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He doesn't have one. Its just him myrcella and tommen and they are all living.


In the 2nd episode the Queen, when visting Bran Stark, told Cate Stark that her oldest son had died. She said that her son looked like Bran, and was a strong fighter but died of a fever. She said Robert was so upset that he pounded his fist until they bled.
Posted by Books
BR
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:39 pm to
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Is there even a main character? Seems to me it's a bunch of characters with no one being more important than the other.

you could probably make the argument, but like the HBO rep pointed out, the story is the main character more than anyone given a POV
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:40 pm to
I don't remember this and im scouring the internet for any trace that joffrey had a older brother and I can't find anything. Im legitimately confused right now. I have no idea
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:41 pm to
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In the 2nd episode the Queen, when visting Bran Stark, told Cate Stark that her oldest son had died. She said that her son looked like Bran, and was a strong fighter but died of a fever. She said Robert was so upset that he pounded his fist until they bled.


I'm honestly not sure. As far as the tv show goes they haven't mentioned that again. I don't think that was even in the books. I assume they put that in their for you to get some sort of sympathy for Cersei.
Posted by Books
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:43 pm to
in the series Cerci says she gave birth to one of Robert's legit heirs that died in infancy, so no Joff was not born yet. a slightly different version was mentioned in the books
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 3:44 pm
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:45 pm to
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n the series Cerci says she gave birth to one of Robert's legit heirs that died in infancy, so no Joff was not born yet. a slightly different version was mentioned in the books



hmm, I don't remember this in the books at all. Guess I was wrong.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:51 pm to
I don't remember it either
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 3:55 pm to
Nor do I.

They mentioned in Episode 2 that the baby died an infant. Its just a scene to humanize Cersei. Don't put any more thought into it than that.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 4:16 pm to
***Caution: Book talk below regarding things that have already happened in the HBO show.***



I seem to have a vague recall from the books of it being implied that Cersei made sure any potential ligitimate children from Robert did not survive, via some type of abortion. I think she drank some type of potion.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 4:22 pm to
The first child, supposedly a true heir since Cersie says he had black hair, died as an infant (tv version).

I think the child / his death is also mentioned in another episode (7?). When Robert and Cersie are talking to each other prior to Robert going on the boar hunt.
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