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Posted on 4/18/11 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 8:47 am to
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What's the verdict on the pilot episode?


Coming from someone who has yet to read the books, I thought the pilot was quite good. I didn't find it difficult to keep up with the characters at all like have said. The pacing was really nice, never felt slow. No a lot of blood/action past the opening sequences, as I said, it definitely wasn't slow.

My wife was more "meh" about it, but she is a woman, therefore her opinion doesn't really matter.
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Posted by TygerTyger
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 8:54 am to
I'm on my second reading of the existing series, halfway through book 2. This is some of the best fiction ever written. (in my humble opinion)

HBO did a damn fine job here, they hit a major home run. The casting was excellent, in all respects except a few. Cersie and Cat are too homely, Joffery looks too young and too short, and Sansa looks too tall. Dany is my biggest disappointment. I picture Dany being slimmer, more exotic looking, Olivia Wild with white hair.

But Sean Bean IS Eddard Stark! Jon Snow, Benjen Stark, Arya, Rob, Bran, and Khal Drogo are dead on.

As for some of the sex scenes, I'm in NO WAY a prude, but both the Dany/Drogo, and Jaime/Cersei scenes were far too violent then in the books.

My wife is pretty open minded when it comes to nudty and sex, but the rape theme was too much for her. She isn't in to fantasy fiction, but watched the first episode because she knew how big a fan of the series I am. She didn't like how over the top the nudity and sex were, and said it wasn't fair that there was no male nudity (equal rights is big with her). She said she'd give it another week, hopefully HBO got what they wanted with the overt first episode and now they can dive more in to the mystery, intrigue, plotting, and adventure.

Winter is coming.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 8:58 am to
The scene with Khal Drogo and Daenerys wasn't done well at all imho. It didn't portray what happened in the book well, but more importantly doesn't show the true dynamic of the relationship and the characters personalities in how they handled the situation.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 9:03 am to
First, I want to say I enjoyed the hell out of the first episode. While not all of the characters are how I imagined them while reading, I think they all will be able to pull off their roles exceptionally well.

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The scene with Khal Drogo and Daenerys wasn't done well at all imho. It didn't portray what happened in the book well, but more importantly doesn't show the true dynamic of the relationship and the characters personalities in how they handled the situation.




It was one of the few scenes that was actually different, but I think I see why they did it this way. I'll have to see how their relationship is portrayed over the rest of the season.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 9:27 am to
I haven't read through this thread yet, but I just wanted to say that I want to have titty sex with the blonde chick who married the barbarian guy.
Posted by Books
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 9:45 am to
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Which will probably not do the story so much justice as it should. That character was well received and then when they disappeared people actually felt a bit of loss.

The speed of the story and not so much on screen time spent focus on individual characters could simply make it feel like just a tally on the death toll.

I know for certain that the scene takes place in ep. 9. PPl have to realize there was so much thrown at you in the pilot b/c it's similar to the book, but also they wanted to have that cliff hanger. At the same time, several of the characters weren't specifically introduced bc there was already so many characters to keep up w/ in the first episode. The pace will remain brisk bc the amount of plot that needs to be covered is massive, but everything I've read from critics that have already seen the first 6 eps, is that it'll find it's footing in a couple episodes when they've established the characters w/ the viewers.
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Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 9:53 am to
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I just wanted to say that I want to have titty sex with the blonde chick who married the barbarian guy.


I agree Nudity, violence, and fantasy what is not to like? The quality of the sets, costumes etc really impressed me. Between this and Camelot on starz my weekend tv fix will be taken care of I really enjoyed the pilot. For those that have read the books is there any significance to the dire wolf pups? other than them being the symbol of the Stark house.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 9:53 am to
I think the season would be much better with 12 episodes, I have to believe next season will have to be more than ten.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 9:55 am to
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For those that have read the books is there any significance to the dire wolf pups? other than them being the symbol of the Stark house.


Yes
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 9:57 am to
Two of the wolves in particular are very important in the books.

They both received more screen time than the others in the first episode.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 9:58 am to
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For those that have read the books is there any significance to the dire wolf pups? other than them being the symbol of the Stark house.


Here is a summary of what happens in the book.

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The party is shocked to see they have discovered a dead direwolf and her five live cubs, three male and two female.5 Theon comments that there has not been a direwolf seen south of the Wall in two hundred years, and Hullen, the master of horse, is uneasy that a direwolf has been discovered in the realm after so long. Many in the party are further disquieted when it is revealed the direwolf has an antler stag lodged in its throat, the apparent cause of death.6 Theon prepares to kill the pups, but Bran and Robb protest. Hullen's son, Harwin, points out they cannot keep the pups, and Hullen and Eddard agree. Jon points out that the number and gender match Eddard's children7 and says they were meant to have the pups. Bran is impressed that Jon has referenced both of Bran's sisters and even baby Rickon and given up any right to a wolf for himself to save the pups. Eddard relents and tells Jory and Desmond to gather up the pups. A little farther on, Jon hears something and goes back to discover a sixth cub, white with red eyes, which he takes for himself.8


What is interesting to note is that in the book, all of the pups have their eyes closed, except Jon's pup has its eyes open.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:06 am to
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This looks more expensive than Rome

naw

Rome had to build all the sets. basically rebuilt the city of Rome

i'm sure GOT is shooting on location a lot

one reason why Rome got in financial trouble was b/c it was a pairing with the BBC, which allowed finances to be split, but i think the BBC pulled out more than HBO
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:07 am to
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I need to learn people's first and last names
little boy's older bro- Robb Stark
little boy's oldest bro-



I am betting she means Theon Greyjoy.
Posted by Books
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:09 am to
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Rome had to build all the sets. basically rebuilt the city of Rome

i'm sure GOT is shooting on location a lot

one reason why Rome got in financial trouble was b/c it was a pairing with the BBC, which allowed finances to be split, but i think the BBC pulled out more than HBO

correct, BBC pulled out and Rome cost a good bit more than GOT
Posted by Joe
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:14 am to
Finished book 3 last night! Read the first 3 in two weeks. I think i'm going to wait until closer to July to start Book 4.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:47 am to
So the little blonde girl who got pawned off... what was different in the books about her first ordeal with the barbaric kind/leader? He didn't seem to have any malicious intents, just wanted to get him some poon. It was the girl who took issue and understandably so. I'm not going to put that on the barbarian as it was her brother who said he would "let her get fricked by all his men and their horses if that's what it took for him to be king again"... or something to that effect.

I guess this is a spoiler question but I really don't mind having something small spoiled for me:

Why in the hell is the queen letting her twin brother pump her snatch doggie style? There's a reason for everything and there has to be an excellent, if not entertaining reason why a queen would let her brother hit it from the back.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:47 am to
In addition, Rome was filmed in Italy which is about as expensive as it gets to film in.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:48 am to
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Why in the hell is the queen letting her twin brother pump her snatch doggie style? There's a reason for everything and there has to be an excellent, if not entertaining reason why a queen would let her brother hit it from the back.




Well, obviously, they like fricking each other. That's the short answer.
Posted by MediTiger
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:49 am to
You should link your family trees on the OP to the HBO site. They have the actors pictures in place, which will help newcomers.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 10:51 am to
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Why in the hell is the queen letting her twin brother pump her snatch doggie style? There's a reason for everything and there has to be an excellent, if not entertaining reason why a queen would let her brother hit it from the back.
They are twins who like to frick each other, simple as that.
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