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re: Game of Thrones- Season Long Thread (Newbie Guide in First Post)

Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:20 pm to
is the king the dad from still standing?
Posted by TigerTalker142
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

I didn't make it through Book 4 because I was so pissed that they left out most of the main characters.



That's because Book 4 was supposed to be what is now book 4 and book 5 put together, but Martin decided it was too long. So instead of doing half of all the characters stories, he did all of half in book 4 and he is doing the rest in book 5.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:30 pm to
OK, I knew nothing about this before I watched it, but here is what I saw:

- beheadings
- creepy undead looking dudes with glowing blue eyes, and superhuman strength and speed (doing beheadings)
- wedding night rape
- animalistic rear-entry incest
- a horny, drunken, bitter midget in a whore house 5-way
- several pairs of pretty, pretty titties
- a public murder/rape wedding dance scene
- plenty of pseudohistorical and made-up mythology-esque jargon and proper names like "Winterfell" etc., worthy of a really, really nerdy and lonely 8th grader's creative writing project
- puppy rescue


It all adds up to the GREATEST.SHOW.EVAAAR?

Can they possibly keep up this pace week after week?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:33 pm to
Just wait.
Posted by BCLA
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:43 pm to
Yeah I gotta say, way too much incest for me...
Posted by TigerTalker142
Lafayette
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:45 pm to
Again, just wait.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 12:18 am to
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There will be 10 episodes the first season.

It will run 6 seasons if it does well.


As expensive as it looks to produce, I doubt that.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 12:26 am to
Actually, HBO has commented already that they were content with the cost of production.

There were LOTS of concerns by everyone, fans and execs alike about this series being another "Rome"

Part of the reason why it was greenlit was probably because this pilot was done under budget.


On another note, anyone a little irritated they didn't do the minor but important touch of giving Dany and Viserys violet eyes?

Or am I mistaken and those two don't have that Valyrian trademark?

I like a lot of the casting.....Cat and Greyjoy don't sit right with me though.

Greyjoy doesn't just seem to fit, and Cat is a little too plain for the book descriptions
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Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 12:50 am to
Rome was what I was thinking about.

This looks more expensive than Rome so I had concerns it might meet the same fate.
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 1:52 am to
Sansa has much too much red hair. She is also incredibly tall.

Cat is too plain looking.

Illyrio is no where near fat enough

Rob looks way too old

Cersei is no where near hot enough

Robert is not nearly tall enough

The Others don't look anything like they are described

The Wights didn't have correct skin complexion

Targ siblings didn't have Violet eyes

They didn't ever introduce Theon

Never introduced Rikon

Joffrey doesn't seem near tall enough

Ned and Jon dont look alike at all

But I can easily overlook nearly all the above to be honest.

The episode was incredibly fast paced, It covered a lot of ground. I wonder how they will handle the episodes once the storyline breaks off into 5 separate plotlines.

I didn't think, but knew that would have to be the ending of the pilot. They actually did leave out the semi-touching more consensual scene between Dany and Drogo on the beach, he didn't rape her by the way people. I was kind of upset about the scene of finding the Direwolf pups, since the opening and that scene were among my favorites from the entire series.

The episode didn't really change much from the novels or even leave out vital information. They added a scene here or there, but overall it was basically spot on.

Which means that I can not wait for a complete OH shite moment which will happen this season.

Posted by CCT
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 2:06 am to
I didn't think they introduced Theon...didn't remember seeing him.

The OH shite moments are seriously gonna piss some viewers off if they haven't read the books. My son was pissed that Bran got thrown out the window and I wouldn't tell him anything (whether he lives or dies). But hopefully the viewers will keep tuning in and keep the series going through to the conclusion.

Got about 50 pages left to go in the 4th book. Don't like it. I'm skipping through a lot of those extra new characters and just getting the basics. If they do too many of these new people too quickly in the show it will turn some people off because of the complexity.

Overall, I think the characters were well cast, particularly the Stark kids. In the book I do kind of keep seeing the Queen (Cersei) as Glenn Close, though. Crazy arse bitch and I hate her.

BTW, we may need a Game of Thrones FAQ for newbies so the official thread doesn't become a mass of confusion trying to explain who is who doing what and why. We could keep the FAQ limited to the progress of the episodes. ILUV and Heygirl's questions, along with several others, makes me think we need one. Stickied, maybe?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 2:13 am to
quote:

I didn't think they introduced Theon...didn't remember seeing him.


He was there, and took center stage multiple times.

Which leads me to my other problem with Greyjoy....I have problem telling him and Robb apart.

I can see Arya, Bran, Jon, and Sansa and know who is who with no context.

Greyjoy and Robb could swap and I wouldn't know better.
quote:


The OH shite moments are seriously gonna piss some viewers off


He was talking about the twists that deviate hard from the book plot to throw off the readers as well.

I am not sure that will happen here. The world is too complex, and too well laid out.


SPOILERS



If it does happen, I have to wonder if a certain character will live past season 1...
Posted by CCT
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 2:35 am to
I know who you're talking about...I don't see that character living past episode 4 or 5 at the speed the story is going. Maybe 6, tops.

Posted by GamecockAlum
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 3:09 am to
10 minutes on Wikipedia answered all of my questions.

This and Camelot are good, but frick it makes me want more Roman shows in the vein of Spartacus.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 3:15 am to
quote:

10 minutes on Wikipedia answered all of my questions.


Posted by ATLienTiger
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 3:54 am to
quote:

I know who you're talking about...I don't see that character living past episode 4 or 5 at the speed the story is going. Maybe 6, tops.


Which will probably not do the story so much justice as it should. That character was well received and then when they disappeared people actually felt a bit of loss.

The speed of the story and not so much on screen time spent focus on individual characters could simply make it feel like just a tally on the death toll.
Posted by SLC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 7:27 am to
I think we need a seperate thread for those of us who read the books.

Theon was Ned's sword bearer at the execution.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 7:51 am to
Also the one that told Rob "I take orders from your father, not from you." when they found the wolf pups
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 8:40 am to
Someone look at my first post and tell me if the text in the family trees are too small to read comfortably. Thanks.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 4/18/11 at 8:42 am to
What's the verdict on the pilot episode? I'm gonna wait until the season is over to watch it. Is it bloody? Good action and interesting characters so far?
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