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re: Fear of the Walking Dead Ep. 5 discussion thread
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:24 pm to SoDakHawk
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:24 pm to SoDakHawk
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I took the "take them out humanely" to mean that the civilians that had been taken to that facility would be terminated before the military pulls out. It puts the clock in motion and sets up the storyline where Travis and the group need to get to the facility to save their people before the military puts them down.
It appeared to me the military is not going to kill everyone in the safe zone. The soldiers have resorted to looting it (no longer patrolling it( in anticipation of them pulling out. Like the hot chick said, "something feels different".
But remember in the last episode when Madison cut through the fence and went out on her own? She saw people that were shot in the street that were completely healthy. She even commented that they were shot while still healthy. I think the military takes everybody out when they see they can't localize the virus/disease.
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:34 pm to SoDakHawk
I agree It would have been cool to see some of the soldiers POV.
I took them as leaving because the leader the soldiers were following was killed when they went into the building. When they came out he was not with them so the others decided F this.
I do like how they show how lost most people are and are blindly following the military, but I wish they would show the other side as well.
The viewing audience does not have to be lost with them
I took them as leaving because the leader the soldiers were following was killed when they went into the building. When they came out he was not with them so the others decided F this.
I do like how they show how lost most people are and are blindly following the military, but I wish they would show the other side as well.
The viewing audience does not have to be lost with them
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:42 pm to Split2874
I took it as them purposely taking out Moyers, or leaving him to die. It seems like they had a motive to head down to San Diego.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:48 pm to Methuselah
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all the civilians they planned to eliminate
I thought he was only talking about those "at risk" in the hospital they would take out humanely then abandon the healthy in the safe zones to fend for themselves.
I did like the plot twist with Nick. But I'm not sure if his skills as an, um, interrogator will be as useful in the ZA as the skills of someone who escaped guerrilla fighters or the government death squads or whatever the back story was. But as a plot device it helps in getting us information.
The kids ripping up the rich peoples house seemed like a waste of time. I get that they are still not quite aware of the severity of the situation but at least half of that scene could have been left on the editors floor. Especially since they didn't even hook up.
I do like the addition of the sales guy who saved Nick. I think Nick will be his lackey and these two will become a separate story line. Maybe they spend all next season following them and then following the safe zone folks until they finally meet up a la the Terminus season of WD.
I thought taking Travis out in the Humvee was going to be much better than it wound up being. Clearly the military does not have control of things but the 50 caliber scene did nothing but reinforce what we already know about Travis and what the hell went down in the building they came in as back-up for. Are zombies using weapons in this show??? It's not like they were getting overrun by hordes of zombies in a building. Maybe there are bands of people who don't trust the military/government and have formed militias so that is also what the NG are fighting (flashing light character?)along with clearing out walkers. Lots of holes to fill in one final episode.
Unfortunately since we are not really following any of the military folks I don't think we will get the full story on how and why they fail to control the area. It will just be left to our -the viewers - imagination.
Next week all hell has to break loose or they will lose a lot of viewers during the hiatus until next season. Travis should die but he will most likely stick around like Gabriel in WD. Everyone wants it to much.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:59 pm to OystermanTiger
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Gabriel in WD
Pretty far off topic, but frick that mother fricker.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 1:08 pm to OystermanTiger
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Are zombies using weapons in this show??? It's not like they were getting overrun by hordes of zombies in a building. Maybe there are bands of people who don't trust the military/government and have formed militias so that is also what the NG are fighting (flashing light character?)along with clearing out walkers. Lots of holes to fill in one final episode.
I think that it was a coup to get rid of Moyer so they could skip town.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 1:43 pm to TigahJay
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whats the deal with the black dude in the cage?
One black guy on the show, he's in a cage.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:00 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I think that it was a coup to get rid of Moyer so they could skip town.
That's exactly what it was.
Lt.is trying to get us killed.....bye bye Lt.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:17 pm to say when
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That's exactly what it was.
But weren't they called to the site as back up on the radio because another team that was being overrun by walkers? This was a set up?
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:20 pm to OystermanTiger
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But weren't they called to the site as back up on the radio because another team that was being overrun by walkers? This was a set up?
What if the other team was in on it? Or what if it was actually other guys from the same team? That is hardly an argument against it being a setup.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:48 pm to Funky Tide 8
Yea, alright. I'm not taking counterpoint to this but it just seems to easy. I mean they are only out there because Moyer wanted to take Travis to the hospital etc. But it could very well be they set it up.
But is the show going to let the flashing light go without explaining that? And there was the armed man and non-zombies dead in the street that Mattie saw when she snuck out. There just might be militia, gangs or just armed groups of citizens fighting the NG out there as well. All we know is what we see from our little group in the safe zone. There has to be more than just zombies and bad morale breaking down the military order, right? I've watched enough WD to think there will be some kind of twist to this next week, that's all...
But is the show going to let the flashing light go without explaining that? And there was the armed man and non-zombies dead in the street that Mattie saw when she snuck out. There just might be militia, gangs or just armed groups of citizens fighting the NG out there as well. All we know is what we see from our little group in the safe zone. There has to be more than just zombies and bad morale breaking down the military order, right? I've watched enough WD to think there will be some kind of twist to this next week, that's all...
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:51 pm to OystermanTiger
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Yea, alright. I'm not taking counterpoint to this but it just seems to easy. I mean they are only out there because Moyer wanted to take Travis to the hospital etc. But it could very well be they set it up.
I'm with you. I don't think it was a set up to get rid of him. Or to be more clear...I don't think the whole thing was a set up because they were out on orders and were taking Travis to the hospital when they got the call to go to that bad spot. So while they may have "gotten rid of him" as a plan, I don't think it was some sort of elaborate play to do that. I think if they took him out on purpose (which I'm not sure they did), it was more of a spur of the moment idea.
ETA: Admittedly, I watched this in bed last night and was trying not to fall asleep, so I may have missed something obvious that makes it seem like they set him up.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:53 pm to CocomoLSU
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So I'm wondering if she faked the outrage and lured him to her house knowing that her dad would "question" him for information, or if Daniel just took that chance when it presented itself.
pretty sure Daniel put her up to it he said.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 3:03 pm to CocomoLSU
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it was more of a spur of the moment idea.
They certainly were fed up with him...And I can see them taking advantage of the situation.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:03 pm to OystermanTiger
I didn't see it as them fragging their Lt. The last thing they did when they got out of the building was threw a grenade back that took out a walker. I'm pretty sure they went into that building, got overrun, the last two guys out dropped a grenade on the entrance, and said "frick it, we're out of here". The Lt. and the rest of their guys are zombie food, they're using the opportunity to get out of town but they didn't intentionally start a coup. They mentioned they were going to drop Travis off a couple miles from the safe zone because they weren't going to (report) back. For all the rest of the military knew their platoon was KIA.
As far as the flash guy from the previous episode, he was in an area that had not been quarantined. Travis area had all been quarantined and everyone checked out. Non-quarantined areas their mission was to sweep and kill zombies and humans. They eliminated everything because they thought everyone in that area was infected. It's why the arena was chained up. It was a staging area where people started to turn. They figured everyone there had been infected so instead of sorting them out they locked them all inside, zombies and humans. The dude they were toruring said the dead were turning fast at the arena, faster than he had ever seen it.
This is the type of stuff I wanted to see more of, the breakdown of order.
As far as the flash guy from the previous episode, he was in an area that had not been quarantined. Travis area had all been quarantined and everyone checked out. Non-quarantined areas their mission was to sweep and kill zombies and humans. They eliminated everything because they thought everyone in that area was infected. It's why the arena was chained up. It was a staging area where people started to turn. They figured everyone there had been infected so instead of sorting them out they locked them all inside, zombies and humans. The dude they were toruring said the dead were turning fast at the arena, faster than he had ever seen it.
This is the type of stuff I wanted to see more of, the breakdown of order.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:09 pm to SoDakHawk
Sorry if this has been discussed but shouldn't the soldiers be a little more freaked out? They seem awfully calm knowing that their families could all be dead. Or were they told their families are alive and well?
Is there going to be a season 2 and will it always lead up to the Walking Dead season?
I thought the first few episodes were terrible, last week was good and this one was ok FWIW.
Is there going to be a season 2 and will it always lead up to the Walking Dead season?
I thought the first few episodes were terrible, last week was good and this one was ok FWIW.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:16 pm to SoDakHawk
I agree I think that would be a really cool show. Following the 1st military responders and latch on to some small group of military guys as they survive and become the wolves....lol
Posted on 9/28/15 at 7:28 pm to Split2874
I like zombies as much as anyone but more than that I like the aspect of societal breakdown and the corresponding descent into anarchy, followed by warlord pockets where might makes right. It is a story that has played out many times throughout history (we even saw the beginning glimmers of it with Katrina). The zombies are simply a plot device. From that perspective I enjoy the show. The family is "fortunate" in that they are still living under the mirage of our modern society. They (with the exception of Daniel) are propping up the mirage as long as they can, but it's all about to come tumbling down.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:27 pm to SoDakHawk
Am I the only one who thinks the Lt. has survived and will be back? (as an antagonist obviously)
Posted on 9/29/15 at 8:00 am to theGarnetWay
Certainly possible as they may have just bailed without him knowing and he was stuck in there to have to fight his way out alone which could have taken too long to get out before they had peaced out.
I think the second season will have a bigger budget and as some of these characters in the first season make appearances back in the show we will get some action filled flash backs to some things that are taking place right now outside of the view point of this one family.
They said the first season was going to be dedicated to taking you on a journey with one family through the start of the ZA and I think they are doing a great job of that. Would I rather them show the NG going into the Library? Of course, but it is much more impactful to what it might be like for me to actually go through the ZA to hear it from Travis' perspective in the Humvee.
So I am still enjoying it. Only thing I wish is that there would be more zombies roaming around, with this being in LA there would just have to be way more than what is currently out there.
I think the second season will have a bigger budget and as some of these characters in the first season make appearances back in the show we will get some action filled flash backs to some things that are taking place right now outside of the view point of this one family.
They said the first season was going to be dedicated to taking you on a journey with one family through the start of the ZA and I think they are doing a great job of that. Would I rather them show the NG going into the Library? Of course, but it is much more impactful to what it might be like for me to actually go through the ZA to hear it from Travis' perspective in the Humvee.
So I am still enjoying it. Only thing I wish is that there would be more zombies roaming around, with this being in LA there would just have to be way more than what is currently out there.
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