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re: Errors with firearms in TV and movies

Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:29 pm to
Tommy Lee Jones cocking the hammer w/ his thumb in No Country For Old Men right before he goes into hotel room. So he was walking around w/ a 70 series Colt 1911 with one in the chamber and the hammer down? Or someone pulling a 1911 w/ the hammer down and pulling the trigger and firing. They don't work that way.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:10 pm to
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I remember the big zombie battle in an early season of the Walking Dead at the farm where Hershel was firing a shotgun that must have had 50 shells in it and the shotgun didn't recoil at all.


That was one was comically bad.

Also, the others in that episode drove back and forth over bumpy farm land and shot at zombies, often with one hand. Head shot every freaking time.

Compare that to the last two weeks when firing full-auto at a nearby targets rarely made contact.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:16 pm to
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Bruce Willis had his Aimpoint sight on backward in Tears of the Sun

A real SWAT officer in NY somehow put his EOTech on backwards.

Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20985 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:18 pm to
1911's not being cocked & locked...hammer is always down like it's a regular DA pistol.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:28 pm to
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scenes where shooters unload 40 or more rounds right at vehicles but never hit tires or the protagonists


Have ya never read the news releases on real life NYC cops?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67027 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:39 pm to
Being able to walk into a Wal-Mart and buy an automatic rifle with no background check or waiting period.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51253 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Collateral is another pretty good example of accurate firearm handling by characters who are supposed to be professional. (As with Heat, Collateral directed by Michael Mann who is a stickler for details like that - going all the way back to Miami Vice.)


Just another reason why Collateral is one of the better films of the 2000s.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:19 pm to
What did he shoot the helicopter with? Was that not one of those rifles?
Posted by Bushwackers
Ridin' shotgun with Reese Bobby!
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:28 pm to

Tommy Lee Jones cocking the hammer w/ his thumb in No Country For Old Men right before he goes into hotel room. So he was walking around w/ a 70 series Colt 1911 with one in the chamb

I don’t think it’s unusual. Was hunting with a guy last year that had a Ruger 1911 and he had one in the chamber and put the hammer back down, extra safety precaution.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:47 pm to
Yeah its unusual and dangerous. Your hunting buddy is an idiot. You have to depress the trigger to let the hammer down and that 70's series is even more dangerous that way than newer model 1911's. If you want to drop a hammer w/ your thumber, get a decocker pistol.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:56 am to
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What did he shoot the helicopter with? Was that not one of those rifles?


Nah, it was an M40A3 which is a bolt gun,

Posted by Bushwackers
Ridin' shotgun with Reese Bobby!
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:09 am to
Yeah its unusual and dangerous. Your hunting buddy is an idiot. You have to depress the trigger to let the hammer down and that 70's series is even more dangerous that way than newer model 1911's. If you want to drop a hammer w/ your thumber, get a decocker pistol.

bullshite, dipshit. It’s fine to have the hammer down while chambered 1911. It’s called “inertia safety”. Putting the hammer back down is personal preference even if some consider it dangerous. Depends on the expertise of the handler. Maybe he was an expert gunsmith for all we know, but it’s not uncommon to have the hammer back on a 1911.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:26 am to
Yeah that was the one he started with. There was one he uncovered and started shooting the helicopter. After his spotter got wrecked.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:45 am to
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There was one he uncovered and started shooting the helicopter.
3:42 to 3:55

Ah, later he starts shooting the Barrett. Looks like it is jamming up on every shot?

Yup, just found this:

Posted to IMFDB by Weapons Coordinator Ryan Steacy:
quote:

"I was the weapons coordinator on this film. The Barrett used was a real one firing blanks. After multiple strafing runs by the helicopter and the amount of dust and crap floating in the air from all the explosions,the gun did malfunction a few times on multiple takes. Unfortunately the way it was edited together made it seem like he was cocking it after every shot."


Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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89488 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:47 am to
My ROTC had an M60 that didn't like blanks. We called it "Buffalo Rifle" -
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:40 pm to
I have learned to live with the cocking noise every time a Glock is pointed at someone. Kind of like when a cell phone is answered it beeps.

I enjoy the Walking Dead and pointing out the different firearms. But this season is just bad.

The tin roofing that stops bullets and the cars htat just spark when bullets hit them was over the top. I know it's the movoes and certain things happen for visual reasons, but it is out of hand. So much so that it lost its cool shoot out factor and moved into wow this is very bad kinda fake. I can see the strings tied to the space ship kinda bad
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:03 pm to
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One of my favorite films is Grosse Pointe Blank

SAMESIES!

Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:30 pm to


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