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Early Steven Seagal deep dive (1988-1992)
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:05 pm
Gone on the early Seagal run over the past couple weeks.
The 4 WB films plus Under Siege are largely considered to be the essential Seagal catalogue.
Amazingly, I had really never seen a couple of these.
Takeaways
Above the Law - 1988
Probably the best of his early films not named Under Siege (also had the same director).
Was actually amazed at how much depth the plot it had and how good the cast was for Seagal's 1st film. Would highly recommend.
...
Hard to Kill - 1990:
Probably the most absurd and terrible, yet great films of the Seagal golden age of films. The coma shite alone is worth the watch.
...
Marked For Death - 1990:
Haven't seen this one yet. Seems like it's the most forgotten of his early films.
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Out For Justice - 1991:
This movie is absolutely insane. You could see Seagal's ego and lack of self awareness coming through the screen. He legit thought he was Robert Deniro or AL Pacino in this movie. Decent early 90s NY crime movie and cast is decent, but he there are bizarre monologues in the film where I bet Seagal genuinly thought he was going to get and Oscar nom.
Under Siege - 1992:
Seagal's best film and its not even close. One of the best action films of the 1990s and genuinly a great movie by a very good director. This is the peak of Seagal and also basically his end.
The 4 WB films plus Under Siege are largely considered to be the essential Seagal catalogue.
Amazingly, I had really never seen a couple of these.
Takeaways
Above the Law - 1988
Probably the best of his early films not named Under Siege (also had the same director).
Was actually amazed at how much depth the plot it had and how good the cast was for Seagal's 1st film. Would highly recommend.
...
Hard to Kill - 1990:
Probably the most absurd and terrible, yet great films of the Seagal golden age of films. The coma shite alone is worth the watch.
...
Marked For Death - 1990:
Haven't seen this one yet. Seems like it's the most forgotten of his early films.
...
Out For Justice - 1991:
This movie is absolutely insane. You could see Seagal's ego and lack of self awareness coming through the screen. He legit thought he was Robert Deniro or AL Pacino in this movie. Decent early 90s NY crime movie and cast is decent, but he there are bizarre monologues in the film where I bet Seagal genuinly thought he was going to get and Oscar nom.
Under Siege - 1992:
Seagal's best film and its not even close. One of the best action films of the 1990s and genuinly a great movie by a very good director. This is the peak of Seagal and also basically his end.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 9:08 pm
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:11 pm to Jack Ruby
Marked for Death features Jimmy Cliff and he does a few songs for the soundtrack. That alone makes it worth the watch.
Tone Loc is also in it and does a song or two.
John Crow by Jimmy Cliff
Tone Loc is also in it and does a song or two.
John Crow by Jimmy Cliff
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:12 pm to Jack Ruby
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:25 pm to Jack Ruby
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Above the Law - 1988
Written by Steven Pressfield, author of Gates of Fire.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:39 pm to Jack Ruby
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Under Siege
The Rewatchables just did an episode on this. Definitely worth a listen.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:42 pm to Jack Ruby
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:51 pm to Jack Ruby
I love how formulaic everything about those title/posters are. 3 word title, squint, gun. Except for Under Siege which as your said is clearly the best and I think that's thanks to Tommy Lee Jones. A movie like that can easily be made by the bad guy; Rickman in Die Hard, Ed Harris in The Rock and Jones in Under Siege.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:07 pm to Jack Ruby
These guys break down a few Steven Segal movies.
It's over the top hilarious.
Youtube Clangers Steven Segal
It's over the top hilarious.
Youtube Clangers Steven Segal
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:14 pm to TIGERSTORM
Rewatchables (as mentioned earlier in the thread) posed the question. Is Under Siege really a Steven Seagal film? Or is it a TLJ film that just happens to also have Seagal in it?
On that podcast, they also tried to recast Busey with Sam Jackson. What fricking blasphemy. Busey arguably steals the film...and that's absolutely saying something with the rest of the cast.
As for the other SS films.. I still can't believe much depth Above the Law had. That movie had no business being that as good as it is considering its limitations.
Above The Law - Opening
On that podcast, they also tried to recast Busey with Sam Jackson. What fricking blasphemy. Busey arguably steals the film...and that's absolutely saying something with the rest of the cast.
As for the other SS films.. I still can't believe much depth Above the Law had. That movie had no business being that as good as it is considering its limitations.
Above The Law - Opening
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:40 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:
Seagal's best film and its not even close. One of the best action films of the 1990s and genuinly a great movie by a very good director. This is the peak of Seagal and also basically his end.
Seagal was balanced out as the lead by having Tommy Lee Jones, Gary Busey, and Colm Meaney (Chief O’Brien from Star Trek) as his opposition.
Jones and Busey were a mix of evil and batshit crazy that was entertaining as hell to watch.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:44 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:
This is the peak of Seagal and also basically his end.
I would argue Under Siege 2: Dark Territory is right there with Above the Law as Seagsl's 2nd or 3rd best movie.
And don't forget what was basically a cameo in Executive Decision, even though his face was on the poster - I was shocked when he bit it (spoilers I guess?).
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:58 pm to Jack Ruby
How can anyone forget this masterpiece?
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:05 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:
Hard to Kill - 1990
My uncle randomly bought this on VHS for my dad one Christmas, so I watched it a bunch. It definitely ranks among my "so bad, it's awesome" favorites.
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The coma shite alone is worth the watch.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:29 pm to Jack Ruby
Steven Seahawks first four films were “great for what they were”. He was a pure “action star” along the lines of JCVD or Chuck Norris. Obviously his magnum opus was Under Siege which was a big budget Hollywood Action movie they started Steven Seagal.
On Deadly Ground marked the beginning of the end of Seagal. It showed the road of crappy movies he was headed for.
after that, he was in Under Siege 2 and had a glorified cameo in Executive Decision. He also had two Hollywood attempts at Buddy pix in the Glimmer Man and Exit Wounds. But aside from that it’s been a load of B- movies and worse. He’s nothing more than a sad characature of himself
On Deadly Ground marked the beginning of the end of Seagal. It showed the road of crappy movies he was headed for.
after that, he was in Under Siege 2 and had a glorified cameo in Executive Decision. He also had two Hollywood attempts at Buddy pix in the Glimmer Man and Exit Wounds. But aside from that it’s been a load of B- movies and worse. He’s nothing more than a sad characature of himself
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:27 am to Jack Ruby
Little known Hollywood factoid: Marked for Death's plot twist is what inspired M. Night Shyamalan to pick up a camera and start filming his friends. Next thing you know, we have The Sixth Sense.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 8:29 am
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:43 am to Jack Ruby
Anybody Seen Richie?
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:56 am to Kracka
Anybody know why Richie did Bobby Lupo?
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:02 am to TIGERSTORM
quote:
I love how formulaic everything about those title/posters are
My favorite Steven Segal title was "Out For a Kill". They must have run out of ideas and just said "frick it, let's combine Out For Justice and Hard to Kill"
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:24 am to lsusa
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On Deadly Ground
Some highlights:
SS kills a grizzly bear with a knife. Somehow he gets behind it and stabs it.
SS blows up an entire rig in a huge explosion to cap a wild well (although TNT is sometimes used to quickly remove oxygen to extinguish a flame, you would never want to blow up all of the existing well/rig equipment!)
Michael Caine's final act of defiance is to open the "Ocean Oil Sludge" valve ... of course, all offshore installations are equipped with these valves labeled with appropriate signage.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:28 am to Jack Ruby
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