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re: Disneys Snow White trailer suffering absolutely ridiculous ratio
Posted on 8/15/24 at 4:56 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 8/15/24 at 4:56 pm to SammyTiger
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Encanto
While I personally think this is one of the best movies Pixar has made in like a decade it was absolutely not commercially successful
Posted on 8/15/24 at 4:56 pm to td01241
quote:Is this one of those things when people start a sentence with, “It goes without saying…” then continue on and say it anyway.
I could point out woke is just a short and easy catch all term for a lot of things poor writing many times these days is actually due to wokeness and hiring unqualified wanna be victims because they’re some combination of box checkers.
But I won’t.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 4:57 pm to td01241
Doesn't Deadpool feature a lesbian couple and Deadpool himself is pansexual? And for 1 & 2 he's up against white males, one of which is implied to be abusing kids. And they race swapped Domino.
He did the exact same thing other movies get railed for, but his movies are actually entertaining and funny. I don't get why we point to that stuff as some scapegoat for other movies that fail then ignore it when the movie is a success.
He did the exact same thing other movies get railed for, but his movies are actually entertaining and funny. I don't get why we point to that stuff as some scapegoat for other movies that fail then ignore it when the movie is a success.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 4:59 pm to td01241
it has a 30 day theatre run because People weren’t seeing movies in 2020 and 2021.
Domestic Box office in 2019 grossed 11.3 billion
it barley cleared 2b in 2020 and didn’t hit 4.5b in 2021.
Domestic Box office in 2019 grossed 11.3 billion
it barley cleared 2b in 2020 and didn’t hit 4.5b in 2021.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:00 pm to SammyTiger
Disney don’t make no way home and gets a very tiny % of the profit. It’s well known Dr Strange at best broke even do to insane budget. Thor might’ve made a small profit. Black panther was an undeniable success. I’ve already addressed Deadpool and why it isn’t indicative of anything. GOTG3 is a success but for reasons I’m about to explain is now the exception not the rule.
The important thing about all of this is the trend line for how much each movie makes, and how much fans like them. Dr strange, Thor. And to an lesser extent black panther 2 were not well received by audiences.
I find it also interesting you didn’t include ant man 3, or the marvels, or any other of the colossal failures of page 4 and 5 which there are many. Someone that can’t be said about one film I can think of in phase 1-3
The important thing about all of this is the trend line for how much each movie makes, and how much fans like them. Dr strange, Thor. And to an lesser extent black panther 2 were not well received by audiences.
I find it also interesting you didn’t include ant man 3, or the marvels, or any other of the colossal failures of page 4 and 5 which there are many. Someone that can’t be said about one film I can think of in phase 1-3
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:01 pm to ThoseGuys
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Has Disney hit home run after home run with Star Wars? Absolutely not. They have way more fails than success. But they have had some success, which is more than we possibly would have gotten out of George Lucas.
This is the point I always make but people can't comprehend for some reason (I guess they think of Star Wars as "theirs" and wanna "protect it")
If you look at it from a pure entertainment standpoint, a company producing 10,000 films and 4 being good provides more entertainment than a company producing 1 thing and it being good.
Im able to pick and choose what I want to watch, I don't have to watch all 10,000 things being offered, so just give me more choices. I will decide which I want to watch, and the 9,996 I don't watch do nothing to ruin my enjoyment of the 4 good things. It seems movies/tv shows are the only thing people can't grasp this concept with.
8 hours of good content is better than 2 hours of good content. It isn't my money being spent to make the 10,000 projects and I don't care if they make money or not.
I just want more shite to watch
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:01 pm to td01241
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being that Disney retroactively has ruined the good things people actually like about Star Wars in their never ending quest to subvert and deconstruct it because, reasons.
My main point was that George Lucas mostly sucked with Star Wars and now Disney mostly sucks with Star Wars. You're still eating the same turd sandwich, but now your complaining about the bread being used.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:02 pm to td01241
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could point out woke is just a short and easy catch all term for a lot of things poor writing many times these days is actually due to wokeness and hiring unqualified wanna be victims because they’re some combination of box checkers.
No you couldn’t because there’s no connection there. Other than some cringe marketing like we saw with Force Awakens there really isn’t anything there. Of course your arse wants to blame on some boogey man like woke or DEI and doesn’t want to talk about the actual problems like the live action movies being a product of laziness that some times makes money or the lack of a clear plan or connection between the phase four movies in the MCU unlike the first three phases. Nah the movie clearly has too many women or gay people that’s the real reason.
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being progressive politics inset d everywhere imaginable in society.
And there it is, you can’t help yourself but piss yourself anytime something different is shown on screen. Of course you disguise it as some sort of evil mastermind plan like dem liberals tryin to turn us ghey
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:04 pm to ThoseGuys
Deadpool is pansexual in the comics I think. Idk. The reason no one cares about it in Deadpool is what you mentioned. The movie is good and it’s not entirely about his pansexuality and how marginalized he is. Almost always “woke” movies are synonymous with absolutely dog shite movies because they first and foremost care about how diverse they are and representing some random perceived marginalized group on screen and not being entertaining. The 90s and early 2000s had a shot load of things many would call woke now. No one cared because it was good. Funny no one like dwgfan can explain this.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:05 pm to dawgfan24348
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dawgfan24348
What would we do without true “centrists” like you and Corinthians
Goddamn y’all are smart
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:07 pm to ThoseGuys
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My main point was that George Lucas mostly sucked with Star Wars and now Disney mostly sucks with Star Wars. You're still eating the same turd sandwich, but now you’re complaining about the bread being used.
This is a pretty good point for some reason people like to retcon the idea that the prequels aside from episode three were arse. Phantom Menace was boring as frick and Attack of the Clones was terrible. Before Disney came along all Star Wars had were the originals and some games ranging from awesome to meh. Also the Clone Wars show was pretty solid.
The sequels were ruined because of some “woke” bullshite Force Awakens was good. The problem was Last Jedi just completely butchered everything, making Luke not give a frick, killing Snoke, that dumb arse plan with Poe and Holdo’s even dumber plan, not to mention Rose and the casino planet. Poor writing and trying to subvert expectations was what killed it not the existence of non white dudes
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:09 pm to td01241
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Disney don’t make no way home and gets a very tiny % of the profit.
Sony hasn’t made a good spiderman movie in 20 years. Disney made No way home. Sony know they have a good deal because they couldn’t crack 1b with Garfield.
Ant-man and MS Marvel tanked. the rest are covid casualties. no way of know how they would have done if theatres weren’t empty in 2020 and 2021
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:09 pm to dawgfan24348
Force awakens was terrible. Not last Jedi terrible because that’s one of the worst films ever shite out, but there’s nothing impressive about it remaking a new hope with a lame and gay chick instead of luke. Not shocked you enjoyed it though you’re extremely simple.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:10 pm to td01241
To bring this thread back full circle, I feel like "woke" is too overused and hollow at this point. Will this movie fail because it's "woke" or will it fail for the same reason the other 3 adaptations of this story Disney tried to pump out failed?
Seriously, look up how many times studios have put out live action movies based on Snow White and then tell me how many were actually good. When this movie fails, it won't be because it is "woke". It will fail because it's a shitty movie.
Seriously, look up how many times studios have put out live action movies based on Snow White and then tell me how many were actually good. When this movie fails, it won't be because it is "woke". It will fail because it's a shitty movie.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:10 pm to SammyTiger
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Covid casualties
What would the shills have without excuse people
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:12 pm to imjustafatkid
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All they had to do was cast someone who actually looked like Snow White and at least came CLOSE to looking as good as Gal Gadot. She didn't have to be obviously more beautiful, but casting someone who obviously isn't even in the same league as Gal Gadot is a huge fail
Evil queen: ‘Who is the fairest one of all?’
The mirror: ‘You.’
--The end--.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:14 pm to ThoseGuys
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Woke is overused
Yeah of course I agree. There is a very good and undeniable reason for it though. Humans are creatures of patern recognition. “Woke” generally speaking is just a quick and easy way of saying something that incorporates post modern philosophy to an invasive degree which is the entire pillar and building block of progressive politics. People seen patterns of movies being bad being synonymous with this. So you get this movie sucks cuz it’s woke said a lot.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:19 pm to td01241
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last Jedi terrible because that’s one of the worst films ever shite out,
This is such a hyperbolic statement it’s hard for me to take you seriously I had many problems with it but the recent Sony villain movies alone prove this wrong
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with a lame and gay chick instead of luke.
Few things, Rey was a boring character after the first movie but your description says a lot about you also you are aware she’s not gay and even if she was it had no bearing on the problems with the sequels like I said you bring up legitimate issues but then hyper focus on shite that either doesn’t exist or is totally innocuous
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:19 pm to td01241
The bigger issue I have is that it has now created a discussion vacuum where any new media that comes out is assigned woke or not based on the amount of minority in it.
Anthony Mackie is being given almost no chance for his run as Cap to be successful simply because "woke" despite the fact that if we looked at things based on meritocracy, he should be given every opportunity because he is a damn good actor more than capable of pulling off the role. I get that I am bias because he is a local guy and I will almost always root for the Louisiana connection, but he is one of the better actors currently in the MCU.
Anthony Mackie is being given almost no chance for his run as Cap to be successful simply because "woke" despite the fact that if we looked at things based on meritocracy, he should be given every opportunity because he is a damn good actor more than capable of pulling off the role. I get that I am bias because he is a local guy and I will almost always root for the Louisiana connection, but he is one of the better actors currently in the MCU.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:20 pm to dawgfan24348
It’s a joke Francis from the South Park episode. Lighten up and unclutch those pearls.
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