re: Disneys Snow White trailer suffering absolutely ridiculous ratio

Zeigler sucks. And almost certainly doesn’t.

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Second largest one? Rofl dude are you a Disney simp or something? Please post what metric you’re using? In terms of total watch time they just dropped to 6th and are over 15 billion in the negative. If you wanna use total subscribers you’re also insane. Many of those are low revenue users outside the USA and Canada and a ton of those inside the USA get it for free via spectrum

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None of what you posted is true in any regard.

Netflix has the most subscribers worldwide of any paid streaming service. Disney Plus has the 2nd most subscribers worldwide of any paid a streaming service. Those are facts. You don’t have to like them, but that doesn’t make them any less true.

I get that you are too simple minded to understand anything beyond red fish blue fish one fish two fish, but you should at least learn to stay in your lane and out of conversations about subjects you clearly have knowledge of.

What % of Netflix subs are in USA or Canada which are considered higj per user revenue compared to D+? How many D+ subs don’t pay for it either by Verizon deals, bundling, etc or the second largest cable provide in the USA gives it to their customers for free?

Apologies I didn’t type what I meant was. Disney + hasn’t never made a profit. Hulu is one of the few that’s been profitable for a long long time and is responsible for that earnings call report. But factoring in they still owe 5-25 billion for it is it really a profit?

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Disney is one of the only steaming services to turn a profit (largely due to hulu ads) I haven't looked into the numbers but do all the ads from disney+/espn+/hulu count towards hulu advertising umbrella or are they separated?

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It’s all different pockets in the same pair of jeans on Mickey Mouse’s arse.

I would love to take a deep look at the bullshite is doing to their books to make it look like Disney Plus isn’t turning a massive profit. The only easy explanation I can think of is if one division of the company (the film/tv divisions) is “leasing” out the rights to their catalog to the streaming service and that’s how they are cooking up a loss for these streaming services - the old charge the right hand to take money from the left hand even though all the money is in the hands of the same person.

I agree there’s a distinction, but they’re all adaptions from a prior work to some degree or another all the same

the distinction is we aren’t seeing movies that don’t have a built in fan base making money.

I think Oppenheimer is the highest grossing one in a long time that wasn’t a Superhero, Sequel, Video Game or iconic doll.

Even with Oppenheimer, it was based on real life in one of the most important moments in history, the beginning of the atomic age. Add on top of that who the director was (and that he has his own built in fan base) and the movie was a very safe bet.

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Disney pays themselves to license their own content. Any other mind blowing revelations for us that have been known since D+ launched?

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Easily the point is siloing D+ as non profitable because it’s Hulu or the IP division making profit is disingenuous.

There are business models exactly like this where one business supplies all the resources at a profit to another business that doesn’t turn a profit, but they’re both owned by the same entity. I’m pretty sure this is how Popeyes ran when Al Copeland owned them and Diversified Foods.

I’m not sure if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me but my umbrage isn’t with what you’re talking about. It’s mostly about how Disney themselves does literally nothing mostly that is a revenue generator. They simply buy things that already are and often times turn them into non revenue generators. It is annoying and bad for all fans of entertainment. That’s why I am insisting on making the Hulu D+ distinction because Disney deserves less than zero credit for any of it