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re: 'Borat 2' Tomatometer - 89% and Spoilers Thread

Posted on 10/25/20 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 2:37 pm to
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ETA: I really liked/enjoyed the first one



You realize the first one made fun of Bush and Republicans?

Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 8:14 pm to
The movie was kind of funny until the Rudy G part. That part was kind of low, and a bit of a double standard, imo.

Now, if Rudy was given the impression that she was 15 then I would completely change my tune on it but it looked like she presented herself as an adult conservative internet reporter. She touched him first, made all sorts of obvious advances, and then invited him into the bedroom "for drinks". I mean, he is a single man.

It kind of bothers me that the intent was to shame him for it and had nothing to do with comedy. Honestly, I don't think he should be apologizing.

And yes, I am a liberal poster calling out SBC and defending Rudy Giuliani.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 8:16 pm
Posted by TejasHorn
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 8:39 pm to
Borat is like a kid in a candy store in today’s America. No one has any critical thinking skills left, with minds dumbed down by an obsession with politics.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83273 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:08 pm to
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You realize the first one made fun of Bush and Republicans?



So maybe conservatives can take a joke after all.

But considering the Borat character, there should’ve been plenty comedic opportunity in making fun of liberals these days. But that’s not often done for some reason.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:37 pm to
Regardless..

Rudy Giuliani was planning to frick that girl. I dont blame him. He may not wake up next week, may have been his last chance.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16570 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:50 pm to
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Regardless..

Rudy Giuliani was planning to frick that girl. I dont blame him. He may not wake up next week, may have been his last chance.


Oh yeah, definitely. Dude has definitely had affairs in his past. He wanted some. He is single and it definitely appeared she was the one pursuing him. He should have just owned it. The footage didn’t appear to show her ever presenting herself as a 15 year old and she sure as hell didn’t look even remotely close to that age, that would be my only issue if she definitely put the 15 year old stuff forward and he thought she was 15.

If anything SBC putting his actress in a position to actually seduce someone for a job, that’s a lot worse than an old single dude wanting to get some.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:54 pm
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 7:39 am to
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I dont blame him. He may not wake up next week, may have been his last chance.


You heard the Maynard Rogan too

She was 25 years old, btw.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:58 am to
I didn’t think it was good, didn’t even finish it.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:03 am to
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And yes, I am a liberal poster calling out SBC and defending Rudy Giuliani.




While I won't defend Giuliani, I do think that scene was way overblown by many people late last week. I don't think it's a great look to immediately retire to the bedroom with someone interviewing you, and I thought it was pretty obvious it was a set up when SBC came in there claiming audio problems.

I don't think he has much to apologize for though. He's kinda been a sleazebag for several years now, so it was in character for him.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
8777 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:09 am to
As somebody who has never seen the first one, i thought this one was fricking hilarious. the debutante scene had me rolling
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162153 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:28 am to
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. The only way you don’t think it is funny is if you are a staunch conservative that can’t take a joke about some of the people in the political party.


nah, just find of felt like low hanging fruit to me.

Also not buying the guys he quarantined with were legitimate at all.

I thought the scripted portions of this one provided more laughs than him interacting with people. I did like him using the fax machine guy so much "sup?"

It wasn't terrible, probably the funniest comedy to come out in a while...but that says more about the state of comedies in the last 5-10 years
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33301 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:08 pm to
I thought this one was very funny at times but should have been 20 minutes shorter. Anyone else creeped out by the plastic surgeon and his nurse? Wtf

I don’t agree with the people saying this one is appalling and much worse than the first. It’s basically the same movie just copy and pasted

People are too butthurt over the Rudy scene. Did they provoke him-yes, was he out of line- yes, did it look like a big deal -absolutely not. Let’s move on
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:15 pm to
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Anyone else creeped out by the plastic surgeon and his nurse?



The debutante ball was the only scene in this one that made me uncomfortable. But I read this wasn't an "official" debutante's ball, whatever the hell that means. SBC and his producers put an ad in a local paper for it with a $50 entry fee. One guy that was there said a few people realized it was a ruse pretty early on and left.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5663 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 1:54 pm to
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Especially when he goes to the synagogue to die.


Best scene
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 5:37 pm to
Just finished it, very funny, I didn't think Sasha could pull off another Borat, but be pulled it off

Bring on Ali G In Da House sequel, it's prime time
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 6:01 pm to
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And you guys say everyone else in the country has gone soft






Oh btw, I was right about Cam Newton.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 6:03 pm to
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He's kinda been a sleazebag for several years now, so it was in character for him.


He's been that his whole career.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 6:04 pm to
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The debutante ball was the only scene in this one that made me uncomfortable. But I read this wasn't an "official" debutante's ball, whatever the hell that means. SBC and his producers put an ad in a local paper for it with a $50 entry fee. One guy that was there said a few people realized it was a ruse pretty early on and left.




I mean you could tell the guy was about tell his daughter the whole thing was fake before they cut his line out. The daughter being super pissed off was slightly amusing.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5886 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 7:54 pm to
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mean you could tell the guy was about tell his daughter the whole thing was fake before they cut his line out.


This kind of stuff just doesn't bother me. I'm not watching a documentary. I'm evaluating borat as a comedy. Is it funny or not. I lean more toward yes (mostly). Even if it's 90% fabricated, there's a degree of difficulty here that very few people have been able to pull off, as has been covered in this thread, and it works more than it should. Manipulation is something that bothers me in documentaries, but this is a mockumentary.

Before anyone calls me out, no, it absolutely does not matter that Cohen is currently talking about how real the Giuliani scene is on talk shows. He's a filmmaker promoting his film. It's what directors and actors do on talk shows.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:56 am to
Oh it doesn't bother me either. Just mentioning that for the poster that said the scene was awkward. It looked like most were in on it. Except for the women. And you can't really expect the kind of women at those kind of events to actually have a sense of humor.
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