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re: 'Borat 2' Tomatometer - 89% and Spoilers Thread
Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:46 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:46 pm to The Spleen
Oh boy
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
The pics on Hunter Biden's laptop would probably be a lot more entertaining. 
Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:52 pm to The Spleen
There's got to be some more context to this sequence of events to make it legal.
If I went to a bar and picked up a chick, brought her back to a hotel room and had someone secretly filming inside, wouldn't I be thrown in jail? Let alone if I did that, didn't tell her, and then released it publicly for money. Am I missing something?
If I went to a bar and picked up a chick, brought her back to a hotel room and had someone secretly filming inside, wouldn't I be thrown in jail? Let alone if I did that, didn't tell her, and then released it publicly for money. Am I missing something?
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:54 pm to Eighteen
I agree. Something doesnt seem legit and/or legal.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:07 pm to WaltTeevens
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The first one was a cultural phenomenon that had people of all ages, sexes, and races talking about it.
No it wasn't.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:13 pm to Eighteen
He certainly crosses some ethical lines. Some of the scenes in the first one made me pretty uncomfortable with how he took advantage of people's niceness and generosity. The lady that taught the manners class comes to mind.
But legally, from what I understand he gets signed waivers from everyone that makes it into the film. I'm guessing Rudy signed a waiver thinking it was legitimate news interview, which from what I read was how they framed it - she was interviewing him. When the interview was done, she invited him to the bedroom of the suite where this scene played out. I don't know how it passes legal muster when it is hidden cameras though.
But legally, from what I understand he gets signed waivers from everyone that makes it into the film. I'm guessing Rudy signed a waiver thinking it was legitimate news interview, which from what I read was how they framed it - she was interviewing him. When the interview was done, she invited him to the bedroom of the suite where this scene played out. I don't know how it passes legal muster when it is hidden cameras though.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:16 pm to Eighteen
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If I went to a bar and picked up a chick, brought her back to a hotel room and had someone secretly filming inside, wouldn't I be thrown in jail? Let alone if I did that, didn't tell her, and then released it publicly for money. Am I missing something?
They have to get a release from everyone to obviously use their image, likeness and persona in the movie.
Most States require that you have to tell the person they're being recorded if they're not in a public place.
But yeah, even in the lawsuit from those racist frat boys in Borat...they admitted they were told it was being filmed, Borat - was making a movie (they didn't tell them it was Sascha Baron Cohen) and the kids signed releases to be on camera (they claimed they were duped.)
So to answer your question, especially after the first movie's lawsuit...nobody is being secretly filmed, no one who appears in the movie is doing it against their will and they all signed releases and were most likely paid and had contracts with Cohen's production company. So yeah...staged if you will.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:16 pm to imjustafatkid
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No it wasn't.
It was pretty popular
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:18 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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. So yeah...staged if you will.
Why would Giuliani ever agree to something like this?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:19 pm to dawgfan24348
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It was pretty popular
It made $262M at the box office. That's great for what it cost to make the thing, but let's not pretend that's just insanely popular.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:27 pm to The Spleen
quote:this is from someone who watched it
The pic is all over Twitter. I can't stop laughing at it. What a dope.
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Ben Dreyfuss
@bendreyfuss
I have now seen the scene with Rudy Giuliani and though it is creepy for other reasons it is being described on twitter in a false way. He does not have his hand down his pants in a sexual way. He is tucking his shirt back in after she untucks it removing his mic.
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The scene is confusingly edited for comedic purposes which makes sense since this is a comedy film and not a 60 Minutes expose. It would be good to keep that in mind in light of the flattening of media where everything can seem like everything else.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:33 pm to joeyb147
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Ben Dreyfuss
@bendreyfuss
I have now seen the scene with Rudy Giuliani and though it is creepy for other reasons it is being described on twitter in a false way. He does not have his hand down his pants in a sexual way. He is tucking his shirt back in after she untucks it removing his mic.
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The scene is confusingly edited for comedic purposes which makes sense since this is a comedy film and not a 60 Minutes expose. It would be good to keep that in mind in light of the flattening of media where everything can seem like everything else.
ok see, this makes a lot more sense
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:49 pm to Eighteen
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oh, it's making fun of Trump and Republicans? Geeee, I wonder how the critics will respond to it
People who can't laugh at themselves are the worst.
"Trump fans" should laugh at this as well.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:51 pm to Eighteen
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it's making fun of Trump and Republicans? Geeee, I wonder how the critics will respond to it
Im going out on a limb here, but something tells me he doesn't make fun of any democratic political types. I mean, the content at some of those antifa protests alone would be great comedy. A bernie rally? Same.
but, yeah, doubt we see it.
he's pandering like the rest of them.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:59 pm to YumYum Sauce
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Im going out on a limb here, but something tells me he doesn't make fun of any democratic political types. I mean, the content at some of those antifa protests alone would be great comedy. A bernie rally? Same.
but, yeah, doubt we see it.
he's pandering like the rest of them.
Man, who gives a shite. It's still funny.
You people need this election to end badly. It's taking over your entire mind all the time.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:07 pm to Eighteen
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ok see, this makes a lot more sense
Giuliani has turned into a political hack, but I'm not a fan of Cohen's gotcha movies either. Editing down Giuliani to make him look at his worst is the comedic version of shooting fish in a barrel.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:07 pm to CatfishJohn
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You people need this election to end badly. It's taking over your entire mind all the time.
Not in the least.
the timing of the Rudy thing says it all. The borat guy is smart. he knew at least a third of the country and 90% of all media would salivate over it. Timing is everything.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:15 pm to YumYum Sauce
You're saying you can't enjoy it, even if it is really funny, because it's only picking on your guy.
This country is losing it's sense of humor.
This country is losing it's sense of humor.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:24 pm to RLDSC FAN
I don't know what went down with that, I just read about it...but Rudy must've agreed to something...I mean he's the POTUS attorney...I mean he took on the Mafia.
If he signed some bullshite release and got duped by Borat than Cohen is not only playing with legal fire but a genius.
Also maybe Cohen doesn't care about getting sued after the fact...with the money and sensationalism that bits like this bring to the movie, maybe they factor in defamation suits into their budget.
If he signed some bullshite release and got duped by Borat than Cohen is not only playing with legal fire but a genius.
Also maybe Cohen doesn't care about getting sued after the fact...with the money and sensationalism that bits like this bring to the movie, maybe they factor in defamation suits into their budget.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:32 pm to CatfishJohn
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You're saying you can't enjoy it, even if it is really funny, because it's only picking on your guy.
This country is losing it's sense of humor.
I think a big part of the problem is that it's almost always one side that is the butt of the jokes, so it gets pretty annoying.
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