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re: Black Panther is now the highest grossing superhero movie of all time
Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:36 pm to ZappBrannigan
Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:36 pm to ZappBrannigan
I never said anything was wrong with it.
It was just a point I was making. There's reasons for it hitting those numbers.
It's funny that this is somehow taboo to talk about. I went and saw this movie (I enjoyed it) The theater was full with people in full African garb.
It was just a point I was making. There's reasons for it hitting those numbers.
It's funny that this is somehow taboo to talk about. I went and saw this movie (I enjoyed it) The theater was full with people in full African garb.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:41 pm to musick
And that's cool.
They finally get a seat at the table.
But claiming it's all black and filling the seats is kinda silly, no one has the time for that continuous bullshite besides Chinese singles trying to ruin Valentine's day for others.
They finally get a seat at the table.
But claiming it's all black and filling the seats is kinda silly, no one has the time for that continuous bullshite besides Chinese singles trying to ruin Valentine's day for others.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:42 pm to Wayne Campbell
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What should it have been called?
POC
Panther of Color
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:43 pm to jeff5891
You people will go see any marvel movie that comes out. Why is this surprising? Ticket prices keep going up, so every damn one is going to make a shite ton of money.
This doesn't impress me any more. they will keep breaking records every year with these goofy films.
This doesn't impress me any more. they will keep breaking records every year with these goofy films.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:18 pm to YumYum Sauce
Some claiming I don't know what I am talking about because I haven't seen the movie ignore the fact that you can greatly see the effects of how this movie was promoted and the social media response it received.
I haven't been able to get away to the theater to watch it due to family obligations, not because I am against such a movie for some ridiculous reason.
Numerous friends of mine that are black that would not give one damn about a comic book film were foaming at the mouth to see this movie. This isn't a parody or comedy like Blankman, Undercover Brother, I'm Gonna Git you Sucka. Hell, it goes beyond Shaft in that it makes the Super Hero royalty that saves the world.
I'm happy people are liking this movie, and Marvel did a great job from all reviews I've read of minimizing the SJW BS from it.
That said, I've read some people claiming it as an amazing movie, while most reasonable friends that saw it said it was a pretty good movie, but from a film standpoint not spectacular.
Marvel is great at these types of films because they are good films without too much preaching. The problem with movies like Superman vs Batman and Justice League is that they are simply bad movies, which turned away a lot of people.
Marvel relied on building up the characters along with developing their MCU. DC Comics simply takes it for granted, and that is why Wonder Woman, which was a mediocre/ok film was so revered. It wasn't an abomination like the others, and on top of it was a "milestone" for women in these types of movies.
I haven't been able to get away to the theater to watch it due to family obligations, not because I am against such a movie for some ridiculous reason.
Numerous friends of mine that are black that would not give one damn about a comic book film were foaming at the mouth to see this movie. This isn't a parody or comedy like Blankman, Undercover Brother, I'm Gonna Git you Sucka. Hell, it goes beyond Shaft in that it makes the Super Hero royalty that saves the world.
I'm happy people are liking this movie, and Marvel did a great job from all reviews I've read of minimizing the SJW BS from it.
That said, I've read some people claiming it as an amazing movie, while most reasonable friends that saw it said it was a pretty good movie, but from a film standpoint not spectacular.
Marvel is great at these types of films because they are good films without too much preaching. The problem with movies like Superman vs Batman and Justice League is that they are simply bad movies, which turned away a lot of people.
Marvel relied on building up the characters along with developing their MCU. DC Comics simply takes it for granted, and that is why Wonder Woman, which was a mediocre/ok film was so revered. It wasn't an abomination like the others, and on top of it was a "milestone" for women in these types of movies.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:42 pm to nes2010
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Usually 15% of a comic book movie [is black] but were 37% of the audience for this movie.
Not sure why this debate continues after the links this guy provided.
$138 Mil of the domestic box office was from that extra 22% of black people who saw the film.
Add that to Ant-Man and he goes from $180 mil to $318 mil.
Add it to Doctor Strange and he goes from $232 mil to $370 mil.
Add it to Iron Man 3, Marvel's biggest standalone hero film, and he goes from $409 mil to $547 mil.
Even without the added black audience, Black Panther would outpace every single Marvel Studios film except for the first Avengers.
The black audience is helping, but it's far from the sole reason that this movie is killing it.
If you removed the entire black audience, it would be at $398 mil. That would put it closing in on Civil War and Iron Man III.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:15 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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If you removed the entire black audience, it would be at $398 mil. That would put it closing in on Civil War and Iron Man III
Lol wut
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:17 pm to musick
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Lol wut
Sorry. I forgot to factor in the Mayor of Opelousas buying out every screening.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:18 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I am still wanting to see BP. This is fairly typical for me as I just got around to seeing Annihilation (which I recommend) and was not able to get a ticket the other week when I tried a late BP show.
Anyway, I am glad to see one poster pointed out the Black Panther moniker preceded the emergence of the US Black Panther group. This isn't really a surprise: Stan and Jack tended to design characters that were more about cooperation and common beliefs than potential animus or controversy (Thus they actually changed Black Panther to Black Leopard until the 70s).
My expectations are lowered somewhat but it sounds like BP is enjoyable if not fantastic. And, as a continuation of and expansion of Marvel branding, it makes sense it would be successful. TLJ and the DC products left a lot of money on the table and a well executed movie deserves to pick some of that up. Especially when it doesn't have a lot of current competition (Jumanji is months old and Annihilation wasn't "accessible enough" to bring in a wider audience).
Anyway, I am glad to see one poster pointed out the Black Panther moniker preceded the emergence of the US Black Panther group. This isn't really a surprise: Stan and Jack tended to design characters that were more about cooperation and common beliefs than potential animus or controversy (Thus they actually changed Black Panther to Black Leopard until the 70s).
My expectations are lowered somewhat but it sounds like BP is enjoyable if not fantastic. And, as a continuation of and expansion of Marvel branding, it makes sense it would be successful. TLJ and the DC products left a lot of money on the table and a well executed movie deserves to pick some of that up. Especially when it doesn't have a lot of current competition (Jumanji is months old and Annihilation wasn't "accessible enough" to bring in a wider audience).
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:22 pm to jeff5891
I feel like it should be noted in this thread that Tyler Perry's single largest grossing movie, Madea Goes to Jail, pulled in $90 Million at the box office.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:28 pm to randomways
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The Avengers" of being primarily successful because of the largely white cast?
Because it’s far from the only super hero movie with a predominantly white cast.
This movie has hyped tremendously by many of those in black social media as ground breaking. Yes there were other predominantly black movies before but there were either before the social media and weren’t part of MCU. MCU is as big as it gets when it comes movies these days. In addition it wasn’t just the all black aspect, it was also seen as a cultural thing as the movie took place in a (fictional) African country and showcased their culture. That’s never happened before for a big movie.
Super hero movies aren’t for everyone but some of those people went to see this movie specifically because they felt it was iconic. When I say some people, I’m also referring to older black people who otherwise wouldn’t care at all about a super hero movie.
Again to say it didn’t play a significant part in its success it’s as dumb as those saying it was the only reason.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:32 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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I feel like it should be noted in this thread that Tyler Perry's single largest grossing movie, Madea Goes to Jail, pulled in $90 Million at the box office.
And it cost about $10 million to make. Black Panther's marketing budget was about twice what that movie made.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:32 pm to brmark70816
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This is a weird narrative that people keep pumping up, but makes no sense. If Black movies were destined to be such money makers, then why aren't Tyler Perry movies blockbusters. If its just Super Hero ones, how about Blankman and Undercover Brother (both funny as hell movies). Its just a good movie, with interesting characters that hit at the right time. The black thing has never applied to any movie ever, so why would it matter now?
Please be a well-crafted troll. Please.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:41 pm to 1BamaRTR
I can't wait to buy this on Amazon Fire TV.
I'm not a racist, but most black people and I seem to have very different opinions on movie theater etiquette.
Talking and cell phone lights ruin movie theater experience for me.
I'm not a racist, but most black people and I seem to have very different opinions on movie theater etiquette.
Talking and cell phone lights ruin movie theater experience for me.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:41 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Even without the added black audience, Black Panther would outpace every single Marvel Studios film except for the first Avengers.
The black audience is helping, but it's far from the sole reason that this movie is killing it.
True.
There are also hipster white people going with no attachment to the MCU.
I say this as a guy who had a friend on Facebook post an Excel list of the Marvel movies and which ones he's seen (Seriously, that happened) and he's seen maybe 5 of them in total, with Black Panther being one of them, and he saw it on opening night. Dude had no clue who BP was as he had not seen Civil War. Complete virtue signaling move from this guy.
Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I haven't had a chance to see it yet as I've been swamped and now it's getting to be crunch time as movies I'm interested in are going to start piling up...so it'll have to be in the next couple weeks. But it's pretty obvious a large chuck (debate how large all you want if you feel like it) is due to the fact that BP was the first black-centric hero movie in the MCU. Doesn't take away from how well it's done, but much like Wonder Woman that was buoyed by the fact that she was the first female comic lead there REALLY IS more to the story than "This must be the greatest comic book movie of all time!!!"
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:43 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Doesn't take away from how well it's done, but much like Wonder Woman that was buoyed by the fact that she was the first female comic lead there REALLY IS more to the story than "This must be the greatest comic book movie of all time!!!"
Well, she's also world class hot. That gave me that extra nudge needed to go see that one in theaters
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:49 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Well, she's also world class hot. That gave me that extra nudge needed to go see that one in theaters
No doubt.
But thinking back, I thought it was really cool that in the theater where we saw it, there was an obvious influx of little girls who were there to see Wonder Woman. We've seen all of the MCU and most everything else comic related in the theater within the first two weeks of release and it was crystal clear that WW's audience was decidedly more female than the rest.
No doubt those girls were mostly new to the comic book movie world and were there largely for Wonder Woman. Same with Black Panther.
Hopefully...both demographics will stick around after.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 6:47 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I say this as a guy who had a friend on Facebook post an Excel list of the Marvel movies and which ones he's seen (Seriously, that happened) and he's seen maybe 5 of them in total, with Black Panther being one of them, and he saw it on opening night. Dude had no clue who BP was as he had not seen Civil War. Complete virtue signaling move from this guy.
Exactly how many of the MCU movies does one need to have seen in order for it to be ok to want to see a movie about a character you know nothing about? How do you know he didn't go b/c he liked what he saw in the trailers?
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:05 pm to Dr RC
As a character, T'Challa is unique out of any film or TV show based around a comic book character.
The reason being, as stated clearly by both Chadwick Bozeman and Ryan Coogler, has nothing to do with him being black.
It has EVERYTHING to do with him being a POLITICIAN/WORLD LEADER as his primary identity.
What other superheroes in mainstream comics are actual heads of state?
Lex Luthor is a villain (POTUS)
Black Adam is a villain (Dictator)
Magneto is a villain (Dictator)
Victor Von Doom is a villain (Dictator)
While Tony Stark does become the Secretary of Defense at one point, that's not his primary identity.
The reason being, as stated clearly by both Chadwick Bozeman and Ryan Coogler, has nothing to do with him being black.
It has EVERYTHING to do with him being a POLITICIAN/WORLD LEADER as his primary identity.
What other superheroes in mainstream comics are actual heads of state?
Lex Luthor is a villain (POTUS)
Black Adam is a villain (Dictator)
Magneto is a villain (Dictator)
Victor Von Doom is a villain (Dictator)
While Tony Stark does become the Secretary of Defense at one point, that's not his primary identity.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:06 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
isn't Aquaman the king of Atlantis?
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