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re: Best Fictional Military Organizations/Teams
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:56 am to CU_Tigers4life
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:56 am to CU_Tigers4life
Dutch's team
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:01 am to CU_Tigers4life
The one man, Hugo Stiglitz army.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:32 am to CU_Tigers4life
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The Mobile Infantry from Starship Troopers
Now, I love Starship Troopers as much as the next guy. It's awesome in so many ways.
BUT, the tactics of the infantry is fricking laughable. They have guns with range capabilities, but their tactic is to shoot the Bugs while walking up and crowding around them, right there within reach? Who the hell does that?
Still, I love the movie, but no.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:38 am to Ash Williams
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The 300 Spartans
Hmmm... explain this to me...
The op said "Fictional" and you bring up a historical event that involved 300 Spartans...??
What am I missing...
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:46 am to CU_Tigers4life
The elves from LOTR. They were cold blooded killers with a bow.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 12:01 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Posted on 1/20/21 at 12:14 pm to TygerTyger
quote:The Mobile Infantry in the movie is laughably bad, but that is part of the satire.
BUT, the tactics of the infantry is fricking laughable. They have guns with range capabilities, but their tactic is to shoot the Bugs while walking up and crowding around them, right there within reach? Who the hell does that?
The MI in the book is bad arse. They drop in a pod from orbit, wearing a powered armor suit that's loaded up with small and heavy arms, rockets, nukes, jetpacks, etc., picture something like War Machine from Marvel. On the ground they're a basically a one man walking tank, spread out from their platoon with mile(s) between each trooper.
Pretty much the exact opposite of the swarm of grunts spray shooting from the hip at close range in the movie.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 12:39 pm to klrstix
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Hmmm... explain this to me...
The op said "Fictional" and you bring up a historical event that involved 300 Spartans...??
What am I missing...
I think he’s talking about the movie’s depiction which was very fictional. The movie was based on Frank Miller’s graphic novel which is a dramatization of the real thing. Also in the movie, it’s being told as a story by the only surviving spartan to the rest of the Greek force to inspire them. Hence the monsters and badassery of the movie. Plus in real life there were 300 Spartans and several thousands other Greeks there.
Speaking of fictional Spartans though
Posted on 1/20/21 at 12:48 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:The SPARTAN-II Program is awesome. I've done some deep dives into the lore outside of the Halo games and find it fascinating.
Speaking of fictional Spartans though
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:02 pm to klrstix
The ones from the movie
I'm confident the actual Spartans were not as bad arse as the movie versions. I'm also confident they had more than 300 soldiers.
I'm confident the actual Spartans were not as bad arse as the movie versions. I'm also confident they had more than 300 soldiers.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:04 pm to CU_Tigers4life
The winner:
LOTR Army of the Dead
LOTR Army of the Dead
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:45 pm to Ash Williams
This is one of the only myths I kind of believe.
Usually the victorious write history.
And these guys lost.. but it's still recorded as crazy last stand.
Usually the victorious write history.
And these guys lost.. but it's still recorded as crazy last stand.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:34 am to CU_Tigers4life
Space Marines from Warhammer 40k is probably the most iconic for people who know it. Know you could say GW overdoes Space Marines but from a level standpoint, they’re the most iconic super soldiers although probably closer to being the bad guys than you’d think.
On top of that they are 8 feet tall and have a layer underneath their skin of carapace that connects them into their power armor, helping them become one with their suits
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The surgical process takes a great deal of time and pain, sometimes even being lethal. The different stages of implantation must occur in a precise order at different times of development, lengthening the process to a significant degree. First, the recruit receives gene-seed implants, along with chemotherapy, hypnotherapy, and training necessary for allowing the functioning and development of the implanted organs. The implants transform their bodies and minds to give them near-superhuman abilities, with 19 special organs found in Space Marines and an extra 3 in their Primaris brothers. Some notable abilities and attributes of a Space Marine include:
Greatly enhanced strength - Allowing them to overpower even a gargantuan Ork nob in physical prowess.
Greatly enhanced speed - Allows them to move much quicker across and around the battlefield than regular soldiers.
Unnaturally quick reaction times - Grants them microsecond reflexes, important in battle to let them fight hand-to-hand with fast aliens like the Eldar.
Much-increased physical durability - to last longer physically in battle or hostile conditions like the vacuum of space.
Enhanced senses - biological improvements allows a space marine to have sharper senses of hearing, smell, and sight as well as having natural night-vision.
Enhanced metabolic processes - enabling them to fight with minimal rest, clot wounds in seconds, or enter a self-healing coma.
Increased survivability - A secondary heart and third lung increases oxygen absorption, filters toxins, and take over if the primary organs are destroyed.
Improved digestive system - enables ingestion of dangerous substances like raw and toxic alien flesh, absorption of their prey's genetic memories, and the ability to spit blinding, corrosive acid.
A closed gland (Progenium) - harvested by Apothecary Marines at death for new gene-seed spores to create new Space Marines.
Intense indoctrination and conditioning strengthens the recruit's resolve and increases mental capabilities, honing them into dedicated, merciless warriors that become fiercely loyal to the Emperor. Slightly prior to the completion of their implantations, they become Scout Marines, light and mobile forces charged with reconnaissance and infiltration. After more general training and the completion of their augmentations, they join the Chapter as full "Battle-Brothers" and earn the right to full use of their iconic Power Armour and Boltgun
On top of that they are 8 feet tall and have a layer underneath their skin of carapace that connects them into their power armor, helping them become one with their suits
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 12:42 am
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:41 am to athenslife101
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:45 am to Ash Williams
Beat me to it. I think Aragorn's army edges out the Riders of Rohan, but either way...
Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:37 am to CU_Tigers4life
quote:
Stormtroopers were programmed and always missed. Only big numbers of troopers made them worth a shite
They were clumsy bumbling idiots who were taken down by a smuggler, a rube and a chick.
That was the old joke back then, how did the Empire conquer the Galaxy when their soldiers couldn't hit the broad side of a barn?
Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:44 am to TygerTyger
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BUT, the tactics of the infantry is fricking laughable. They have guns with range capabilities, but their tactic is to shoot the Bugs while walking up and crowding around them, right there within reach? Who the hell does that?
While politically and obviously uniforms its a Nazi analogy, fighting is more so a Zulu movie ripoff where a smaller number has superior weapons but are completely overwhelmed by the ferocity and numbers of the enemy.
Every battle in Starship Troopers, even when they win, is painted as a collosal mistake.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:45 am to vilma4prez
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This is one of the only myths I kind of believe.
Usually the victorious write history.
And these guys lost.. but it's still recorded as crazy last stand.
It was a "remember the Alamo" story for other Greek armies who won quite a few important battles. But ancient writers played pretty fast and lose w/ numbers, so I doubt anyone will ever know how many were really there.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:48 am to vilma4prez
quote:
This is one of the only myths I kind of believe.
Usually the victorious write history.
And these guys lost.. but it's still recorded as crazy last stand.
The Greeks controlled the written word at that time and had the first real historians.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:29 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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The Greeks controlled the written word at that time and had the first real historians.
And the Spartans controlled Greece for a time. Plus it was Spartan propaganda because the Athenians had Marathon(the Spartans refused to fight in that battle).
The best fictional military organization.
The Commando Elite from "Small Soldiers"
Little bastards made bad assed weapons out of household items and were kicking the crap out of grown men. It took an EMP to knock them out.
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