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re: Best Ancient Historical movies that are mostly accurate
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:05 pm to SpqrTiger
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:05 pm to SpqrTiger
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It doesn’t bother me that much, though because if someone is interested in the ancient world, they aren’t going to stop at the movies’ representations of it. They will pick up a book.
The more history I read, the more I realize that historians don’t even know that much. Two history books might have wholly different takes on the same event. So I cut movies plenty slack. I’ll watch a documentary if that’s what I’m looking for.
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:10 pm to RD Dawg
This dude is really sitting here arguing for the historical accuracy of Gladiator??? This is the hill you wanna die on?
Bro it’s a great movie but it’s about as historically accurate as Inglorious Basterds, I’m not sure why you are arguing this?
Bro it’s a great movie but it’s about as historically accurate as Inglorious Basterds, I’m not sure why you are arguing this?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:10 pm to Tiger1242
Spartacus.
Gracchus had been looooooooooooooooong dead when Spartacus revolted.
Gladiator: Commodus actually fought in the arena. I took Maximus to be Trajan as Trajan was Spanish and was quite the warrior emperor. Marcus Aurelius ruined the silver age by leaving the purple to his son, commodus. The emperors of the Silver Age were successful because they did away with hereditary succession until MA's nerve lost to his heart.
Most of the well known WW2 movies such as Tora Tora Tora, Midway, Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Britain, and others were pretty accurate. Some were novels adapted to movies but the surrounding event depictions were accurate as well.
Gracchus had been looooooooooooooooong dead when Spartacus revolted.
Gladiator: Commodus actually fought in the arena. I took Maximus to be Trajan as Trajan was Spanish and was quite the warrior emperor. Marcus Aurelius ruined the silver age by leaving the purple to his son, commodus. The emperors of the Silver Age were successful because they did away with hereditary succession until MA's nerve lost to his heart.
Most of the well known WW2 movies such as Tora Tora Tora, Midway, Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Britain, and others were pretty accurate. Some were novels adapted to movies but the surrounding event depictions were accurate as well.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:48 pm to prplhze2000
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The emperors of the Silver Age were successful because they did away with hereditary succession
Too be fair, none of them had a son to inherit their title until Aurelius had Commodus
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:57 pm to Tiger1242
Neither did Augustus but they all tried to keep it in the family for awhile. Tiberius didn't have one either. Nor did Caligula
Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:02 pm to Tiger1242
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This dude is really sitting here arguing for the historical accuracy of Gladiator??? This is the hill you wanna die on?
No I'm not, any why are you repeatedly saying this?
Never once did I say it was "historically accurate"
Once again, you said "complete fiction" Give me your definition of "complete fiction" when it comes to Hollywood?
Ben Hur is "complete fiction"
Here is the definition of fictionBTW
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Inglorious Basterds
Why in the world are you trying to compare a fictionalized movie
set 80 years as opposed to a portrayal of Rome 2000 years ago?
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 1:41 am
Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:05 pm to prplhze2000
quote:Battle of the Bulge was so inaccurate Eisenhower actually held a press conference to denounce it
Most of the well known WW2 movies such as Tora Tora Tora, Midway, Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Britain, and others were pretty accurate.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:23 pm to Freauxzen
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Apocalypto
History Buffs destroys this movie (but not as much as The Patriot) as the Mayans in the movie living in different periods of their 2,000 year history in the span of 3 days.
YouTube
"This film goes beyond historically inaccurate. This film doesn't make a lick of sense."
The movie shows the Mayan collapse around 900 AD but in the span of a day, Spanish ships are arriving on their shores in the 16th Century.
It's a time travel movie.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:33 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I, Claudius
Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:51 pm to Tiger1242
Caligula
Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:56 pm to blueboy
Spartwcus tv show is pretty accurate
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:31 am to Pandy Fackler
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What about that movie about jesus where they say he pretty much had the flesh stripped from his back?
The movie that made Mel Gibson filthy, rotten, stinking rich.
Was that historically accurate?
If you believe the Shroud of Turin is in anyway authentic, that movie wasn't accurate enough.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:35 am to ClampClampington
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Kingdom of Heaven (strictly Directors Cut) probably sneaks into my Top 15 movies all time. Wish there more movies about the Crusades
Not even close to historically accurate though. I think the one thing that really amused me was the portrayal of the Patriarch of Jerusalem, the Archbishop Heraclius. In the film he is portrayed as a cowardly bigot who cared nothing about the common people. In actuality, Heraclius was concerned for nothing but the common people of Jerusalem. It was he who urged Balian to take up defense of Jerusalem against the forces of Saladin and even ordered silver taken from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre to strike as coins to pay the defenders of the city. And then it was Heraclius who convinced Balian to ask Saladin for terms rather than fighting to the death to save Jerusalem from Islamic conquest, fearing that the women and children of the city would be forced into slavery as well as forced to convert to Islam.
Heraclius helped Balian reach terms with Saladin and gathered as much money as he possibly could to pay the ransom of every citizen of Jerusalem so they wouldn't become slaves. When they came up short to pay the ransom for 15,000 people, Heraclius and Balian offered themselves to Saladin as hostages in exchange for the 15,000. Saladin refused and those 15,000 men, women, and children were sent into slavery.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 3:58 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:21 am to RD Dawg
My guy it’s called hyperbole goodness. Are you being intentionally obtuse? It’s a fake story with some real people in it
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:21 am to RollTide1987
I hated the cheap lazy cliche portrayal of Heraclius. Ridley Scott went out of his way to make the Church and crusaders look bad and make Saladin look like the perfect chivalrous knight.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:30 am to prplhze2000
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Neither did Augustus but they all tried to keep it in the family for awhile. Tiberius didn't have one either. Nor did Caligula
It’s interesting, the only emperor who had passed power to his sons was Vespasian to Titus and Domitian, and everyone fricking hated Domitian.
Also Marcus Aurelius was a follower of Stoicism which teaches that doing the logical and reasonable thing over the personally fulfilling or pleasing thing. I wonder what made him choose his son which seems like a selfish move, maybe he thought he was actually the best choice?
It also kind of explains why Commodus was so nuts. His whole life he had unlimited wealth and power, yet his dad was constantly telling him to do what is just not what is fun. So once his dad is dead, he goes completely the other direction, he’s just being rebellious!
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:34 am to Tiger1242
I think the 1st part of 2001: A Space Odyssey was good. Not counting the appearance of the "monolith" to give the early primates a little evolutionary nudge to forge weapons it was probably a good accounting of early man living in caves afraid of the dark, the strong overcoming the weak...
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:21 am to Tiger1242
Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure isn’t complete fiction bc Socrates was real!
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:49 am to Tiger1242
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mostly accurate
Okay maybe not.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:05 am to NeauxDice
I think the Spartans supposedly did throw the ambassadors into a well or pit of some sort.
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