re: Batman V Superman TV Spot 4 - Spoilers in this thread

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Superman is also driven to do things by the book and the "right" way,

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The old Superman was. Snyder's Superman is veering from this pretty far.

Let people die.
Ruined trucker's life.
His dad.
Smashed government equipment.
Etc....

It's one of my biggest gripes about the movie. I'm hoping he goes more to being a good guy in this movie.

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Synder's Superman has just gotten started.

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Exactly. People just have no patience nowadays, let's wait and see how they handle his character arc.

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Synder's Superman has just gotten started.

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He has a fricked up moral compass.

Ma and Pa Kent were trainwrecks in MoS and he made a slew of horrible decisions growing up.

Instead of growing to make the right decisions even when they're hard, they went a different route.

You can agree or not, but to say this iteration of Superman is a "do it buy the book good guy" is ignoring the facts in the DCU

It's funny seeing your reactions to this film as compared to star wars. I guess by your logic Kylo Ren will be a bitch for the remainder of the trilogy.

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I just don't think Zach Snyder understands why people love these characters. I think he's completely tone deaf to that.

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Isn't Snyder a pretty big comic book nerd himself? While I don't really care too much for him as a filmmaker, to say he doesn't understand why people love these characters is pretty dumb.

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I guess by your logic Kylo Ren will be a bitch for the remainder of the trilogy

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1. Kylo Ren is a brand new introduced character to a new movie. He's young, untrained, and still growing as a character and a person. Superman is a long established character that already has a movie behind him explaining his personality and his past development.

2. Kylo Ren is very far from a bitch in that movie. There is only one person in the entire universe of the movie able to fight him and she was his cousin and, like him, a prodigy unlike any other in the universe. He had also just taken an explosive shotgun to the chest and murdered his own father. That might have given Rey a slight advantage. Outside of Rey, Kylo fricked up everything in his path, slaughtered people, stopped lasers mid air without effort, tortured people, etc....

And he has tons of character development left. The movie ended with him embarking on training with his Sith Master. You think the character of Superman has massive changes left? He doesn't have a mentor or a master and he isn't still in training.

They pretty clearly laid out in MoS the tone and personality of this Superman. We can debate his personality and whether or not we like it, but to say he is a happy go lucky boy scout after watching MoS is incredibly dumb. And to think Snyder is going to turn the character 180 into a straight moral compassed boy scout is not only not understanding how Snyder works, but it would probably be worse than just sticking with the character they created.

The new DC comics make Superman more volatile with more edge, I just prefer the old one and Snyder is going farther than the comics did.

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Affleck will be great as Batman. The marketing for this movie has been poor, but I'm excited for the actual movie..

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The one thing I am excited about is Affleck as Batman. They seem to be skipping all the bullshite in Batman's Rouge Gallery and just assumes we know who they are. That is great. This allows us to get into some of his deeper enemies that Superman sure as shite will have nothing to do with. If they do a Batman Trilogy coming up, here is who I hope the villains are:

I: Red Hood
II: Hush
III: Hugo Strange

Those are perfect antagonists to where Batman will go out of his way to make sure the rest of the Justice League is not involved. And they seemed to be much too low stake in the past to be the main antagonists, but now they're perfect.

Hugo Strange...eh...

They really could have done something nice with an Azrael arc

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Seriously, how awesome would it be if they could get Benedict Cumberbatch to play Hush?

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Damn, I hadn't thought about that one. That would be perfect casting. Unfortunately, he's already tied in with Marvel

If it piece together all the trailers you can probably see 15-20 minutes of the movie.

Stop fricking putting these trailers out.

There better be some massive payoff in this movie. And a little teaser at the end for Bizarro or another villain is not a payoff.

However, the revel that Eisenberg is Luthor's dipshit son and Lex shows up midway through the movie, beats the shite out of him, and takes his role as super villain would be amazingly epic.

I'm still going to see the movie the day it comes out, but the marketing and trailers for this movie have been the worst I can remember for a long time.
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Well said. Never seen advertising like this before. Getting to be absurd