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Posted on 6/8/12 at 2:06 am to magildachunks
You do have a point, but the problem I have with Back to the Future 2 is I think that Biff would have eventually altered history enough with his sports betting. Think about it. If you ever have a beer with an athlete or somehow change how another person would interact with another athlete, eventually this would lead to enough changes that would make the almanac mostly worthless. If you ever interact with anyone, no matter how subtly or indirectly, then you will somewhat influence what they do next, and so on and so forth.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 2:11 am to OMLandshark
I always thought the Terminator movies were the worst offenders of time travel stupidity, but now may have to rethink that stance. The BTTF sequels are really pointless and the events never needed to take place.
Donnie Darko is by far the dumbest, but since that movie is not real time travel, it gets a pass on this debate.
ETA: The original BTTF is one of the greatest time travel stories of all time.
Donnie Darko is by far the dumbest, but since that movie is not real time travel, it gets a pass on this debate.
ETA: The original BTTF is one of the greatest time travel stories of all time.
This post was edited on 6/8/12 at 2:13 am
Posted on 6/8/12 at 2:14 am to magildachunks
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ETA: The original BTTF is one of the greatest time travel stories of all time.
Probably THE.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 7:53 am to saintsfan92612
I wish that they would have made a dark alternate ending where Marty takes the gun from Biff in 1985. Then during the post dance scene where Biff is driving home, Marty caps him in the back of the head and torches the vehicle. This would solve any future assholeness by the Tannens because their bloodline would end with Biff.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 7:58 am to mark65mc
I still crave a hoverboard. 
Posted on 6/8/12 at 8:35 am to magildachunks
quote:oohh the whole "We just forget" plot is so believable.
At least Sphere handled it well. but then, that is Michael Crichton, and he is probably the smartest writer of science related stuff ever.(fiction stories)
Posted on 6/8/12 at 8:43 am to beaverfever
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Yeah for a guy who supposedly was all about preserving the sanctity of the passage of time, doc sure did haphazardly jump into and frick up 2015. In part 1 he refused to know even tiny details in the future but in part 2 he not only wants to know about his and marty's future but actively work towards changing it. It's my favorite of the trilogy but it really is a stupid premise.
That was the 1955 Doc. The 1985 Doc was obsessed with time travel and had loosened up on his views, evidenced by his reading of the note. By the end of the trilogy, he had really stopped worrying about it. That was the point of avoiding the car crash - the future is not set in stone, so just live your life.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 9:53 am to OMLandshark
And how long could Biff get away with betting based on the Sports Almanac anyway. Either the bookies are going to stop taking his bets, because of their tired of paying him off, or the fact that he is betting on Team X is gonna change the odds/spread so much that it will become unprofitable for him.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 9:59 am to Lacour
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And how big of an idiot do you have to be not to keep the sports almanac?
Speaking of time traveling, I have an idea for a sci-fi time traveling book.
However, you don't physically travel back in time. You use your own mind in the present to plant ideas in your head in the past on futuristic events.
Sounds badass, right?
This post was edited on 6/8/12 at 10:00 am
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:02 am to Dreamweaver
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or the fact that he is betting on Team X is gonna change the odds/spread so much that it will become unprofitable for him.
Once he makes a bet, he is locked into the line at the time. The books my adjust the spread after he bets, but he still wins.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:10 am to LSUAlum2001
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Once he makes a bet, he is locked into the line at the time. The books my adjust the spread after he bets, but he still wins.
Not only that, but he has access to the biggest upsets as well, so really he could build a fortune on a small number of bets anyway if he wanted to.
"Oh, the 2004 Sox are down 3-0 to the Yankees? Cool, I'll bet my life savings that they come back and win the series and the World Series."
Profit.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:28 am to magildachunks
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If the Doc would have just told them what was going to happen in the present day, when and where, there would have been no need to go(actually, there is never a need to go) and Biff wouldn't have stolen the time machine and gone back to give himself the sports book and 1985 would not have gotten so fricked up.
i see what you're getting at, but if that was the case then the sequel wouldve last five minutes:
Doc: "Marty, I've just come back from the future. You're a business man with a family and you really need to be more attentive to your son, bc otherwise he'll be arrested."
Marty: "wow, thanks Doc, anything else?"
Doc: "Yea, stop drag racing at intersections, you totally screw up your future as a rock star"
Marty: "But if i'm a rockstar, wouldnt it be possible that my previously mentioned son never exists?"
Doc: "gotta go!"
Credits
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:42 am to CocomoLSU
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Not only that, but he has access to the biggest upsets as well, so really he could build a fortune on a small number of bets anyway if he wanted to. "Oh, the 2004 Sox are down 3-0 to the Yankees? Cool, I'll bet my life savings that they come back and win the series and the World Series." Profit.
Unless a squirrel you threw up on when you arrived back in time ruins John Elway's drive against the Browns that you just bet for a night with Johnny Lawrence's wife, so you have to blow your friend.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:46 am to hehateme2285
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Unless a squirrel you threw up on when you arrived back in time ruins John Elway's drive against the Browns that you just bet for a night with Johnny Lawrence's wife, so you have to blow your friend.
This.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 12:32 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 6/8/12 at 12:57 pm to Adam Banks
It's the weakest of the three by far but still it's a solid flick
I mean we'd all be watching documentary's if movies had to match up with real world realism
I mean we'd all be watching documentary's if movies had to match up with real world realism
Posted on 6/8/12 at 1:35 pm to Ash Williams
Maybe we're not giving Doc enough credit. Maybe the whole point was not to keep the dumb kid from being arrested, but to teach Marty a life lesson. Just telling him not to race would not do it - someone else would call him chicken and he would get in trouble again.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 2:41 pm to Master of Sinanju
I thought that too. But Doc never intended for Jennifer or Marty to ever see their future selves which would have set all that straight.
Unless Doc planned to get jennifer found by the police and sent to her house...
ETA: But apparently Marty didn't learn that lesson because he was pretty upset when Mad Dog called him Yellow but talking to his great great grandpa seemed to help him.
Unless Doc planned to get jennifer found by the police and sent to her house...
ETA: But apparently Marty didn't learn that lesson because he was pretty upset when Mad Dog called him Yellow but talking to his great great grandpa seemed to help him.
This post was edited on 6/8/12 at 2:43 pm
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