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Are superhero movies finally wearing out their welcome?
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:55 am
In the past year
Black Adam - dogshit and underperformed
Multiverse of Madness - very, very meh
Thor - dogshit
Ant-man - dogshit and underperformed bigly
Black panther - very, very meh and underperformed relative to first one
Shazam fury of the woke - dogshit and headed for a colossal bomb
They need to take a 10 year break on this shite. It’s quickly become watery dog shite and the box office numbers show it.
If GotG 3 is a mediocre too that officially sticks the knife in it.
Black Adam - dogshit and underperformed
Multiverse of Madness - very, very meh
Thor - dogshit
Ant-man - dogshit and underperformed bigly
Black panther - very, very meh and underperformed relative to first one
Shazam fury of the woke - dogshit and headed for a colossal bomb
They need to take a 10 year break on this shite. It’s quickly become watery dog shite and the box office numbers show it.
If GotG 3 is a mediocre too that officially sticks the knife in it.
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:56 am to Frac the world
I hope so, but studios will have no idea what else to produce
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 11:57 am
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:58 am to Frac the world
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In the past year
Black Adam - dogshit and underperformed
Multiverse of Madness - very, very meh
Thor - dogshit
Ant-man - dogshit and underperformed bigly
Black panther - very, very meh and underperformed relative to first one
Shazam fury of the woke - dogshit and headed for a colossal bomb
They need to take a 10 year break on this shite. It’s quickly become watery dog shite and the box office numbers show it.
If GotG 3 is a mediocre too that officially sticks the knife in it.
To me, I think it's more that shitty movies are wearing out their welcome. The quality of the Marvel movies since Endgame just hasn't been good. If they got back to the basics like they did early in the MCU then the movies would likely perform better.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:00 pm to Frac the world
Being superhero movies isn't what caused these to flop. There's another glaringly obvious similarity. It rhymes with "poke" and "swirl shower".
Star Wars properties are suffering the same fate.
Hmm, wonder what they have in common?
Give us a good superhero movie. Along the lines of Marvel phase 1 and 2 stuff. Stuff like the Netflix versions of Punisher and Dare Devil. People will eat it up.
Star Wars properties are suffering the same fate.
Hmm, wonder what they have in common?
Give us a good superhero movie. Along the lines of Marvel phase 1 and 2 stuff. Stuff like the Netflix versions of Punisher and Dare Devil. People will eat it up.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:04 pm to Frac the world
I think all eyes will be on GOTG 3. I still think it'll be huge, but if that one has a mediocre box office then there's a real problem with this genre.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:09 pm to Frac the world
It's more "lack of effort put into making good movies" than simply 'superhero movies."
Disney (especially) seemed to stop caring about making movies that are high in quality and that people want to see. Instead, they make movies that they pretend people are clamoring for, and when the masses don't show up they whine like bitches and claim some random woke buzzword to the people that didn't want to see a shitty product ("racists," "bigots," etc.).
If they actually put efforts back into making QUALITY movies/shows, people would go watch them. But until that happens, they'll just have to play stupid and pretend to not understand why they are hemorrhaging money.
ETA: I will say too that their decisions on which ones to move forward with were mindboggling to someone like me who has zero attachments to comic characters. Half of them I had never heard of, and the other half were characters I didn't give a shite about (and not "mainstream" names like Captain America, Hulk, etc.).
When it first was announced Phase 4 (or whatever one was after Endgame), I let out a gigantic MEH and assumed I wouldn't really watch any of them.
Outside of the new Spiderman trilogy (and really mainly the No Way Home one), nothing of the superhero genre has interested me. No Way Home was pretty awesome though.
Disney (especially) seemed to stop caring about making movies that are high in quality and that people want to see. Instead, they make movies that they pretend people are clamoring for, and when the masses don't show up they whine like bitches and claim some random woke buzzword to the people that didn't want to see a shitty product ("racists," "bigots," etc.).
If they actually put efforts back into making QUALITY movies/shows, people would go watch them. But until that happens, they'll just have to play stupid and pretend to not understand why they are hemorrhaging money.
ETA: I will say too that their decisions on which ones to move forward with were mindboggling to someone like me who has zero attachments to comic characters. Half of them I had never heard of, and the other half were characters I didn't give a shite about (and not "mainstream" names like Captain America, Hulk, etc.).
When it first was announced Phase 4 (or whatever one was after Endgame), I let out a gigantic MEH and assumed I wouldn't really watch any of them.
Outside of the new Spiderman trilogy (and really mainly the No Way Home one), nothing of the superhero genre has interested me. No Way Home was pretty awesome though.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:11 pm to Frac the world
if the movies are good people will see them.
Look at Spider-Man NWH and Joker.
It is just the writing has been so bad on the last few movies. Even Spider-Man had some pretty glaring plot contrivances but still found a way to make an entertaining movie.
Thor 4, Wonder Woman 2, Ant Man 3, Dr Strange 2, and Black Adam just had terrible writing to go along with a great premise
Look at Spider-Man NWH and Joker.
It is just the writing has been so bad on the last few movies. Even Spider-Man had some pretty glaring plot contrivances but still found a way to make an entertaining movie.
Thor 4, Wonder Woman 2, Ant Man 3, Dr Strange 2, and Black Adam just had terrible writing to go along with a great premise
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:12 pm to Frac the world
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If GotG 3 is a mediocre too that officially sticks the knife in it.
While it might not break records, GotG 3 is going to do extremely well (and then Gunn leaves for the opposition
). The Marvels bombing in the Fall will probably do Feige in and there will be a complete housecleaning.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:16 pm to Ace Midnight
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The Marvels bombing in the Fall will probably do Feige in and there will be a complete housecleaning.
It won't bomb
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:18 pm to red sox fan 13
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studios will have no idea what else to produce
throw a dart at a wall of years
find best grossing and most loved film(s) of that year
reboot with female minority leads
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:23 pm to Keep Stirring
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It won't bomb
You think it makes money?
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:24 pm to Ace Midnight
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You think it makes money?
Sadly yes.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:24 pm to Frac the world
Even though I wish they would mostly go the way of the DoDo, they are still pound-for-pound the most reliable and profitable genre of film in the world(I guess besides James Cameron films, but he's a once-a-decade guy).
They just are no longer at their apex.
Thor, MoM, Black Panther, all still made money. Ant-Man probably breaks even. DC universe is mostly shite, no change there.
The moment a new Batman or Spiderman, or the inevitable Xmen Reboot bombs, I'll buy the "stick a knife in them" rhetoric, until then, they will continue to be the largest genre of blockbuster releases in Hollywood annually.
They just are no longer at their apex.
Thor, MoM, Black Panther, all still made money. Ant-Man probably breaks even. DC universe is mostly shite, no change there.
The moment a new Batman or Spiderman, or the inevitable Xmen Reboot bombs, I'll buy the "stick a knife in them" rhetoric, until then, they will continue to be the largest genre of blockbuster releases in Hollywood annually.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:25 pm to Frac the world
god i hope so.
that would mean i've successfully waited this thing out without watching any of them since superman 2
that would mean i've successfully waited this thing out without watching any of them since superman 2
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:27 pm to Ace Midnight
There are about three different superhero movie scenarios and they've done them over and over. That spiderman movie was alright, but look at the numbers for it! I wanna say that was the high-watermark in the context of "wearing out their welcome".
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:33 pm to Frac the world
I know Antman underperformed, but what makes it dogshit? I thought it was really enjoyable, and Marvel's best post Endgame movie outside of Spiderman.
It made 850 million, and that's after it lost it leading star. I'd say the movie did just as expected.
Dr Strange movie, while being a letdown in quality. Still brought in damn near a billion dollars.
I think Infinity War and Endgame has warped people's minds a little bit. Those movies hitting 2 billion was a massive outlier. Most movies made about 600-900 million besides the large team-up films.
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very, very meh and underperformed relative to first one
It made 850 million, and that's after it lost it leading star. I'd say the movie did just as expected.
Dr Strange movie, while being a letdown in quality. Still brought in damn near a billion dollars.
I think Infinity War and Endgame has warped people's minds a little bit. Those movies hitting 2 billion was a massive outlier. Most movies made about 600-900 million besides the large team-up films.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:34 pm to cgrand
Post End Game started off well with WandaVision and Loki. Moon Night was great too. The other TV shows have been average to bad
They need to go back to connecting the films
They need to go back to connecting the films
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:36 pm to Keep Stirring
I think it's going to be a huge bomb. No one liked Cpt Marvel- it made the money it did due to the Endgame tie-in. And no one asked for the other characters. It will be a giant swing and a miss.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:42 pm to Frac the world
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Are superhero movies finally wearing out their welcome?
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In the past year
No, it was when MCU phase 2 began ten years ago.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:44 pm to Keep Stirring
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Sadly yes.
Okay, so I'm sure they're at a $285 to $300 million range budget, so it's going to have to make $625m to $650m to BREAK EVEN. I just don't see it. It doesn't have Endgame to build its numbers. There is no draw for the film. It may technically make money in the $750 million range, but that won't be a win for the studio - not with the disaster that was Phase 4 (the phase lost money, not just a picture or two). Phase 5 is only going to make money with GOTG 3 and that may not offset losses elsewhere, IMHO.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 12:45 pm
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