re: Are superhero movies finally wearing out their welcome?

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Being superhero movies isn't what caused these to flop. There's another glaringly obvious similarity. It rhymes with "poke" and "swirl shower".

Star Wars properties are suffering the same fate.

Hmm, wonder what they have in common?

Give us a good superhero movie. Along the lines of Marvel phase 1 and 2 stuff. Stuff like the Netflix versions of Punisher and Dare Devil. People will eat it up.

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Gonna disagree with you on this.

"Woke" and "girl power" doesn't help matters, but the genre has overstayed it's welcome. I mean, it's just market saturation at this point.

I want to see other stuff. Movies set in our reality (the MCU lost this once all the world-threatening stuff starting stacking up). Characters can talk about, say, the covid shutdown, not the "blink".
I'd like to see fantasy (and not necessarily regurgitated or wanna-be Tolkien stuff), sci fi without lightsabers and the Force, espionage and thrillers without SHIELD inserted, etc.

Dune and Maverick show there's an audience out there that is ready to watch something else.

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I say this a lot but its true, everything we got in the MCU up to Endgame was an amalgamation of the 'greatest hits' of Marvel.

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I think there is truth to this. The early phases featured the popular characters. Cap, IM, Thor, Hulk. When they were able to add Spidey that was another major player.

There were some surprise hits with lesser known characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant Man. Those were kind of lagniappe for the studio. The MCU became a huge profit-making entity.

They might consider taking a bit of a break and then introducing other big hitter characters like the X-men and the FF. I don't really see them doing the break part, though, as long as they are still making money.

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because there was just too much toxic masculinity in those comics so they had to fix it with wokeness and never look back at what was cool and people wanted, that existed in history before that

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Applying that to the movies- I absolutely LOVED the original portrayal of Tony Stark, prior to Iron Man 3. I wish they had the balls to keep him that way throughout.

But even with all that, still... there's been 20+ movies, just with the MCU. Another pile with DC, trying to be edgy but riding Marvel's coattails. Enough is enough. I want some of the other action genres to come back and take center stage, and give the superhero bit a rest. They won't do it because of money grabs, but if they could hold off, let another genre take the spotlight awhile, and come back in maybe a decade with some fresh new stories, I'd prefer it.
They can put out streaming shows on Disney+ and HBOMax to keep the concepts around, but at this point, that's the only place I will see another superhero movie. I don't care how good reviews are, I'm just not that interested in seeing another one right now.

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but studios will have no idea what else to produce

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there will be a huge resurgence and revival of the independent film director.

People will want the exact opposite of what they've been given, especially when sick of it.

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Nows the time to be working on that Ole screenplay

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audiences are presented with that, and don’t choose it.

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that was when those superhero and so many other franchises were doing well.

When it fails, like 80s hair metal..and with tech that is accessible to people today. It's easier than ever to "create your own".

I'd love to see it, creativity has been repressed and underappreciated in a lot of ways.

The Batman was really really good

Bad writing

Never been much of a fan to begin with.

If it ain't Batman I don't give a shite.

Mouse has to be fed, quantity over quality. Too many characters and too convoluted at this point.

Id like a resurgence of spaghetti westerns and eastern martial arts films done right.