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Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:27 am to P-Dawg
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Are the contestants finally able to hunt all of the animals in the area without any silly restrictions like no fishing nets, etc?
From what I can tell, there's a species of Martin--a weasel like rodent--- that is off-limits as are sow bears with cubs.
Other than that, I've seen them kill squirrels, rabbits and grouse so far and any species of fish they can harvest.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:13 am to gumbo2176
Awesome. Thanks much!
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:29 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Anybody still watching?
Not a very good season. Once again, food is scarce, unless you can fish. There are medical checks every ten days or so, but we’ve seen none of them. Why not? I’d like to know their weight and vitals as we move along.
I don’t think anyone is gonna get any big game or else they would have shown it by now.
Not a very good season. Once again, food is scarce, unless you can fish. There are medical checks every ten days or so, but we’ve seen none of them. Why not? I’d like to know their weight and vitals as we move along.
I don’t think anyone is gonna get any big game or else they would have shown it by now.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:12 am to LuckySo-n-So
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There are medical checks every ten days or so, but we’ve seen none of them. Why not? I’d like to know their weight and vitals as we move along.
Every once in a while I've seen CC type print on the TV stating how much weight a contestant has lost since beginning the challenge. However, I've seen nothing on vitals like heart rate, blood pressure, etc.
Once the lake freezes over, fishing will be done and in the last episode I heard the commentator say there's a certain type caribou that is also off limits in addition to one type of martin and female bears with cubs.
I've seen moose and brown bears in a few episodes but I'm not sure any remaining contestants have the ability to take down such large animals or properly process them to keep the meat from spoiling before it is used up unless they do so when it is below freezing to help preserve the meat.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 7:32 am to LuckySo-n-So
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Anybody still watching?
Not a very good season. Once again, food is scarce, unless you can fish. There are medical checks every ten days or so, but we’ve seen none of them. Why not? I’d like to know their weight and vitals as we move along.
I don’t think anyone is gonna get any big game or else they would have shown it by now.
I'm still watching but there hasn't been enough interesting to really discuss aside from some of the people that I thought were most capable have tapped.
I wasn't surprised that most of the older contestants tapped. The guy from Wyoming who lost his arrows appeared to put all of his apples into the one barrel of hunting and with him entering the challenge already lean I wasn't surprised he tapped.
The fellow who is good at making lures seems to have the best attitude for the long haul. I like the 55 Y/O ex model as well. Again she has the right attitude and the skills.
Ice fishing will be a key food gathering. We've had some players in the past really do well in that arena.
I'm not overly fond of how some of the editing is being done. We don't know who is doing well as storing food. As I recall, Roland had so much food gathered that he would probably still be out there if he wanted.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:44 am to gumbo2176
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From what I can tell, there's a species of Martin--a weasel like rodent--- that is off-limits as are sow bears with cubs.
can't kill Caribou either, but they can kill a moose.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:09 am to CU_Tigers4life
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I'm not overly fond of how some of the editing is being done. We don't know who is doing well as storing food. As I recall, Roland had so much food gathered that he would probably still be out there if he wanted.
that's my biggest gripe with this show.
It's a survival show, not a sob story drama show. I don't give a shite about your dad dying, or whatever demons you have, or your kid this, your friend that. Not to sound like such a dick, b/c that is a dick statement, but there's just too much wasted screen time on this show. It's fine to mention it and all, but i don't need to spend 10 minutes of an episode focusing on it. There's only 42 minutes of each episode, and they spend at least 5 of it on the opening credits and recap, then we we have to recap a minute of what just happened after each commercial, then we have to spend 10 minutes to hear them cry about being a bitch and tapping out. I fast forward through so much of this show now, and that's not somethign i ever did until the last season and this one.
My wife told me when we were watching this last episode "they'd never let you on this show b/c you dont' have a good enough sob story to tell". I guess i'd have to make one up if i wanted on the show now.
I want to see them build their structure. i want to know why they did what they did. Why they picked that location. And they do show this for the most part, but not with every contestant. I want a running tally of what each contestant has caught/eaten, as well as how much weight they started at and where they currently are at. I want to hear more about what their strategies are. Are you boiling your water or drinking from the lake straight? Are you making a fire in your campsite or doing it strictly off site? seems like after last years winner some people might go into this season drinking water straight and not having a nightly fire in their camp. If you are having a fire, i think more emphasis should be shown on how they make that fireplace/chimney so they don't burn their shelter down. When did you put your gill net out? Have you moved it around if you haven't caught anything in 2 weeks? Are you fishing? if not, why not? Are you actively going out and hunting, or just going out and collecting berries while you have your bow? If you're not actively hunting big game, then why not, what's your strategy? Have you set snares out? if not, why not? How much do they travel from their campsite each day? I mean for god sakes a dude has built a boat and i don't think we've seen him do a god damn thing in it yet. You can't tell me he's not out and about fishing in it. He didn't build it and then never goes in it, or if he did, then how about we explain his reasoning there.
I want to hear more about how the people that come into this show already being skinny, and i say skinny when i should be saying in great shape, and how they expect to outlast the people that have put on extra fat.
I want to know what each of them have found as trash, and how they are using it.
I would much rather see cool shots of nature, then listen to sob stories. Seeing the moose swimming was awesome. I'm sure they have heard wolves at night howling. I experienced that in the woods before and it was an awesome experience to hear that.
I would love to hear them sit down and talk about what their daily routine has been the last few days, and if they plan on keeping that up, or if they need to change it up. I know we can't see everythign they do, but at least we can recap most of it, but instead we spend almost half the episode on screen time that just doesn't matter.
I would just prefer the best survival show on TV stick to being a survival show, not a reality tv drama.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:56 am to TeddyPadillac
Cannot explain how happy I am that Cade is gone. It was a foregone conclusion once he lost his quiver but it's bozos like him that piss me off the most.
You're so dead set on killing a bear that you can't think of anything else, even after you lose your quiver and have no shot of killing a bear with a homemade arrow a blunt broadhead. If you hit a bear with those broadheads, you'd only piss him off. The ones he made could only stun a squirrel, much less kill a bear. He's out there trying to prove what a badass he is by not gaining weight and his one goal is to kill a bear but all he did was show that he's not a good survivalist.
One of the dumbest/most ironic moments in show history is him boiling his belt and trying to eat it because of how hungry he is while in the background is ONE OF THE BEST FISHING LOCATIONS A PERSON COULD EVER DREAM OF. Dude, F the stupid bear, you're not killing one, it's not happening. Instead of climbing a tree for a 200 calorie squirrel, try and catch some fish you moron.
I don't know how someone could go on this show, having watched all the other seasons, and not realize that the biggest common denominator (with seasons that have similar weather) of winning is that you have to catch fish. yes, the two guys that killed big game have won, but the odds of that happening are super slim. You can't go into this thinking that that is the only way you can win.
Alan and Wyatt seem to be the two that realize that. A good tell if someone has common sense is if they catch a fish... they keep on fishing. Alan caught a nice fish last episode and could have called it a day, but he stayed out until dark and caught like 4 more. So instead of being content with something getting him through another day, he bought himself a week worth of time.
You're so dead set on killing a bear that you can't think of anything else, even after you lose your quiver and have no shot of killing a bear with a homemade arrow a blunt broadhead. If you hit a bear with those broadheads, you'd only piss him off. The ones he made could only stun a squirrel, much less kill a bear. He's out there trying to prove what a badass he is by not gaining weight and his one goal is to kill a bear but all he did was show that he's not a good survivalist.
One of the dumbest/most ironic moments in show history is him boiling his belt and trying to eat it because of how hungry he is while in the background is ONE OF THE BEST FISHING LOCATIONS A PERSON COULD EVER DREAM OF. Dude, F the stupid bear, you're not killing one, it's not happening. Instead of climbing a tree for a 200 calorie squirrel, try and catch some fish you moron.
I don't know how someone could go on this show, having watched all the other seasons, and not realize that the biggest common denominator (with seasons that have similar weather) of winning is that you have to catch fish. yes, the two guys that killed big game have won, but the odds of that happening are super slim. You can't go into this thinking that that is the only way you can win.
Alan and Wyatt seem to be the two that realize that. A good tell if someone has common sense is if they catch a fish... they keep on fishing. Alan caught a nice fish last episode and could have called it a day, but he stayed out until dark and caught like 4 more. So instead of being content with something getting him through another day, he bought himself a week worth of time.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:13 am to iwyLSUiwy
I agree for the most part, but if you kill big game, you will win, so going in with that mindset is how you should go into it. Not that you can't win without getting it, but if you do, you'd have to be an idiot or just have terrible luck to not win it.
But....even with that mindset, I can't fathom why every single contestant wouldn't have a gill net in the water at all times, and multiple snares throughout the woods, and on top of that spending at least 2-4 hours fishing every day.
active fishing isn't some strenuous activity. When you need to take a load off, that's what you should be doing, fishing.
i'm curious what the philosophy is on how to eat.
Say you haven't eaten in 5 days and you catch 2 big fish. If you had a steady supply of food you could probably make those two fish last 4 days and i think that would be the route to go, but would it be better to just eat all of them in one sitting, or maybe eat 1 at night, and 1 in the morning instead of rationing it out over 4-5 days? predators don't ration food. they basically gorge themselves when they make a kill.
But....even with that mindset, I can't fathom why every single contestant wouldn't have a gill net in the water at all times, and multiple snares throughout the woods, and on top of that spending at least 2-4 hours fishing every day.
active fishing isn't some strenuous activity. When you need to take a load off, that's what you should be doing, fishing.
i'm curious what the philosophy is on how to eat.
Say you haven't eaten in 5 days and you catch 2 big fish. If you had a steady supply of food you could probably make those two fish last 4 days and i think that would be the route to go, but would it be better to just eat all of them in one sitting, or maybe eat 1 at night, and 1 in the morning instead of rationing it out over 4-5 days? predators don't ration food. they basically gorge themselves when they make a kill.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:45 pm to CU_Tigers4life
I'm still watching, but it's a pretty boring season. I was really surprised when Lee left. I think he just didn't care that much and knew he could do it but realized he had enough of it growing up, that he didn't want to do it anymore.
Cade, the douchey hunter who lost his arrows, is gone. He annoyed me to no end. If he hadn't tapped, he would have gotten pulled. You can't just go passing out in the wildness and be ok.
Yeah, the fishing dude and the woman might be ok. There just isn't much happening at all. We don't have anybody doing much fun/crazt stuff for the camera either, which is entertaining. Not a great season.
Cade, the douchey hunter who lost his arrows, is gone. He annoyed me to no end. If he hadn't tapped, he would have gotten pulled. You can't just go passing out in the wildness and be ok.
Yeah, the fishing dude and the woman might be ok. There just isn't much happening at all. We don't have anybody doing much fun/crazt stuff for the camera either, which is entertaining. Not a great season.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:19 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I don't know how someone could go on this show, having watched all the other seasons, and not realize that the biggest common denominator (with seasons that have similar weather) of winning is that you have to catch fish. yes, the two guys that killed big game have won, but the odds of that happening are super slim. You can't go into this thinking that that is the only way you can win.
100%!
If they are out there fishing and not catching fish, show us. Other than the few (Roland, etc.) that have gotten big game, they are mostly fishing. On Roland's seaon, Kielyn did a lot of snares and got quite a few rabbits. As the winter set in, there were less to catch and hunger finally got her, but she lasted like 80 days. Juan Pablo, winner last year, fished a lot while he could. Yes, big game will win it for you, but having nothing at all will send you home pretty quickly. This lake has lots of huge fish. That one guys fish were getting him over 5000 calories. That's a lot more than a grouse or a lean squirrel.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:32 am to LaLadyinTx
Not too bad of an episode. Nobody went home this week but I think it might be coming soon for Melanie. Seems like she is maybe starting to crack mentally. I love that she was like "ok this is a secret SD card, just for you (whatever her boyfriends name is)", and Alone has the message pop up that basically says yeah there's no secret recordings, everything is fair game to show. 
Kind of confirmed my thinking that Alan and Wyatt are the front runners, and like a broken record, because of their fishing. Alan was pretty close to losing his fishing line and that would have been a game ender I think. That fish that Wyatt caught was huge, I think he said 15 pounds. That's going to guarantee him, at least weight wise, another 10 days or so.
Taz is probably the sleeper. He's a decent hunter and at least has a gil net going. Just seems he might not mentally be able to last. Might be off on that though.
Kind of confirmed my thinking that Alan and Wyatt are the front runners, and like a broken record, because of their fishing. Alan was pretty close to losing his fishing line and that would have been a game ender I think. That fish that Wyatt caught was huge, I think he said 15 pounds. That's going to guarantee him, at least weight wise, another 10 days or so.
Taz is probably the sleeper. He's a decent hunter and at least has a gil net going. Just seems he might not mentally be able to last. Might be off on that though.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:47 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I do find it surprising that half the field couldn't even make it a month, with 3 of them tapping b/c they were starving within 3 weeks.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 2:26 pm to TeddyPadillac
Yea I think they could have done a better job this year with cast selection. I get the show wanting to have a wide range of ages, but they really need to limit the older folks. I mean the older lady this year looked like a grandma. She is I'm sure a great survivalist and has a lot of experience, but this is a different ballgame. They know she had absolutely zero shot at winning this. Same for the 60 year old guy that weighed like 100 pounds. Why have people on the show that have no shot at winning?
Posted on 7/17/23 at 5:20 pm to iwyLSUiwy
This episode was a little better. Not quite as boring with the fishing, berry patch, shelter building and smoking of the fish.
I personally don't care if she looked like a grandma. 3 out of the 5 remaining are in their 50s. I'll take any of them over a douchy, young guy like Cade, who was on my screen 23 days too long! If getting a younger cast means more overconfident, chest pumping 20 somethings, I'll take the old crown instead.
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but they really need to limit the older folks. I mean the older lady this year looked like a grandma. She is I'm sure a great survivalist and has a lot of experience, but this is a different ballgame. They know she had absolutely zero shot at winning this. Same for the 60 year old guy that weighed like 100 pounds. Why have people on the show that have no shot at winning?
I personally don't care if she looked like a grandma. 3 out of the 5 remaining are in their 50s. I'll take any of them over a douchy, young guy like Cade, who was on my screen 23 days too long! If getting a younger cast means more overconfident, chest pumping 20 somethings, I'll take the old crown instead.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 5:35 pm to LaLadyinTx
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I personally don't care if she looked like a grandma. 3 out of the 5 remaining are in their 50s. I'll take any of them over a douchy, young guy like Cade, who was on my screen 23 days too long! If getting a younger cast means more overconfident, chest pumping 20 somethings, I'll take the old crown instead.
No I mean I don't really care about her looks either, I'm just saying it's clear she had no shot at winning. I mean it is kind of impossible for them to know who will make it, but they should have know she wouldn't.
Cade was one of the most annoying characters that's ever been on the show, so yea, I would have taken a 75 year old that tapped out as soon as they dropped him off over that guy.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:09 pm to Damone
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Such a weak cast this season, every tap has been absolutely pathetic.
Until last week’s episode, I thought they cherry picked a cast that gave a woman a good chance to win. They can pick men who have good survival skills but also strong family connections that will make them tap out or they can just pick men who aren’t very good.
But now 2 of the men are catching fish. The bad weather will move in and everyone will hide in their shelter until only one is left.
And I can’t believe Cade couldn’t retrace his steps and find that stupid quiver. All he has is time!
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:48 am to iwyLSUiwy
why did you hate Cade so much?
I"m not saying i liked him, but i didnt' hate him.
The editing of the show really didn't do him any favors.
Here's what Cade had to say about his time. it's a nice read, and shows that he did find his arrows, and actually killed a good bit of animals. He just couldn't catch fish.
LINK
I will point out that his dumbass brought a bar of soap as one of his 10 items, so as i predicted in the first thread, he wasn't going to last long if that's the kind of stupid decisions he was going to make before he got out there. I gave him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he'd teach me something about the usefulness of soap in a survival situation, but that didn't happen. He might as well have taken a hamburger with him instead of that, b/c that was a worthless item to take.
the dumbass from hawaii didn't bring a ferro rod. he brought a block of salt instead. Did we see him use that salt? nope. Did he get sick and have to tap out, likely b/c he wasn't cooking anything or boiling water? yep.
I do'nt mind smaller skinny guys like that on the show, but they have zero chance of winning unless they kill big game, and even doing that, they still need to find other sources of food b/c someone that skinny going on a protein rich only diet with no carbs or sugars or fats isn't healthy long term.
While i dont' want to see grandma's on the show, i get that it's still a show and you can't have 10 slightly overweight guys skilled in survival on the show b/c they might all stay out there 100 days. They have to have some diversity in the cast, and its cool to see what type of person last longer out there. Just last season we had Kari Lee last 75 days and almost win as a grandma. I enjoyed her on the show, even though my first impression was she's got no chance, but she actually did.
What they need to do is stop letting people that aren't healthy on the show. Ann was not healthy enough to do this challenge this year. last season Igor wasn't healthy enough either. I think he had like 3 heart attacks or somethign like that before going on the show. that's just a stupid selection. It's one thing to be old, it's another thing when you are old and have serious health issues.
I"m not saying i liked him, but i didnt' hate him.
The editing of the show really didn't do him any favors.
Here's what Cade had to say about his time. it's a nice read, and shows that he did find his arrows, and actually killed a good bit of animals. He just couldn't catch fish.
LINK
I will point out that his dumbass brought a bar of soap as one of his 10 items, so as i predicted in the first thread, he wasn't going to last long if that's the kind of stupid decisions he was going to make before he got out there. I gave him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he'd teach me something about the usefulness of soap in a survival situation, but that didn't happen. He might as well have taken a hamburger with him instead of that, b/c that was a worthless item to take.
the dumbass from hawaii didn't bring a ferro rod. he brought a block of salt instead. Did we see him use that salt? nope. Did he get sick and have to tap out, likely b/c he wasn't cooking anything or boiling water? yep.
I do'nt mind smaller skinny guys like that on the show, but they have zero chance of winning unless they kill big game, and even doing that, they still need to find other sources of food b/c someone that skinny going on a protein rich only diet with no carbs or sugars or fats isn't healthy long term.
While i dont' want to see grandma's on the show, i get that it's still a show and you can't have 10 slightly overweight guys skilled in survival on the show b/c they might all stay out there 100 days. They have to have some diversity in the cast, and its cool to see what type of person last longer out there. Just last season we had Kari Lee last 75 days and almost win as a grandma. I enjoyed her on the show, even though my first impression was she's got no chance, but she actually did.
What they need to do is stop letting people that aren't healthy on the show. Ann was not healthy enough to do this challenge this year. last season Igor wasn't healthy enough either. I think he had like 3 heart attacks or somethign like that before going on the show. that's just a stupid selection. It's one thing to be old, it's another thing when you are old and have serious health issues.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:58 am to BobABooey
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They can pick men who have good survival skills but also strong family connections that will make them tap out or they can just pick men who aren’t very good.
I'm sure all those family guys that tap out think they will be different. I'm sure they say to themselves that they'll just focus on winning for their kids, etc. Then they are the same as the rest.
Roland was the perfect contestant. I'm not sure he lived that much differently outside of the game.
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