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re: Ahsoka Season 1 Episode 5 Discussion Thread

Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:02 am to
Posted by LSUTitan99
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:02 am to
Thank you, I came here to post this! I can't look at anything else when she is on screen. It is almost too much but I am here for it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:03 am to
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and they probably have to save most of Thrawn for the movie.


They're still doing Ahsoka/Thrawn movies? That's what I remember hearing originally and then we got a series so I assumed they just turned the movies into a series.
Posted by LSUTitan99
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:04 am to
So we are definitely getting a couple of different galaxy visits, right? No way they go to the intended galaxy first imo
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:10 am to
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They're still doing Ahsoka/Thrawn movies? That's what I remember hearing originally and then we got a series so I assumed they just turned the movies into a series.





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Dave Filoni will direct an untitled "New Republic" movie, described as an event film culminating the various television series on Disney+, which will serve as the end of The Mandalorian show.

It's got a very tentative date of June 2026
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:18 am to
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i'm more hoping than anything.
If he truly was the Father, then i can't see how that terrible sequel trilogy would have happened. If Anakin is the Father, then the force is balanced, and there's no Palpatine coming back to do all that dumb shite.

This show still has to sort of explain why Ahsoka had no part in that terrible sequel trilogy, which i think they are trying to do in saying that she doesn't want to fight anymore.


Yea, I'd love for them to bring Anakin in as the Father. I don't think what we saw in this episode was that though. I don't think it was actually Anakin at all. I'd almost lean more towards that being the Son than anything and I believe Sam Witwer is rumored to be in an episode, so he could come in as that. With that site being a Nightsister area, that is what is making me think it was a darker attempt at corrupting her. Who knows though. Could just be the force helping her fight her demons and showing her what she needed to do that, nothing more.

If they go this route though, will definitely be interesting to see how it would fit into the films. Maybe Filoni is going to retcon them himself
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:54 am to
I can't see Anakin being the Son. That's not what he was destined to be, and he wasn't trying to turn her or entice her to the dark like the Son would have done. He was teaching a lesson as a master of the force, as both sides of the force.


I also think what you saw there wasn't a vision or something just happening in Ahsoka's head. The fact that they made a point that Jacen could hear them fighting says that this was actually happening. I think Ahsoka's spirit was in the WBW, and her physical body was in limbo, as in could live or die at that point in the water, something that Anakin said several times.
Anakin seemed to be in control in the WBW and was easily able to transform himself as well as the place they were at. That's something i'd expect the Father to be able to do and i think he was giving Ahsoka a second chance at life (actually a third), basically saving her life.
And he wants her to be the Daughter, but she's not quite ready just yet.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:12 am to
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Space whales are awesome.


When I first saw them in Rebels it immediately reminded me of the Zeplin creatures from Dan Simmons Hyperion novels. I often wonder if they were the inspiration for the Purrgil. Probably not, though.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:14 am to
So in one vs one combat Ezra could pretty much destroy Thrawn in seconds right. Curious what their dynamic would be being stuck on the planet together. Does Ezra lean towards Thrawn and basically call a truce to survive?
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:20 am to
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I'd say Ahsoka was in a near-death experience, and this allowed her to interact with Anakin's spirit...

so not quite a Force ghost- that's when he would interact with someone fully in the realm of the living.

now, as to the World Between Worlds, and whether that means something between life and death; that's another thing. Not sure with that.

I don't think hallucination.


I was trying to figure this out as well. That kid and Hera could hear them fighting.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:40 am to
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So in one vs one combat Ezra could pretty much destroy Thrawn in seconds right. Curious what their dynamic would be being stuck on the planet together. Does Ezra lean towards Thrawn and basically call a truce to survive?



yes Ezra could.
They are either not together and likely never were, or they are together and Thrawn has something up his sleeve, as always, that is keeping Ezra from destroying him just yet.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:45 am to
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I can't see Anakin being the Son. That's not what he was destined to be, and he wasn't trying to turn her or entice her to the dark like the Son would have done. He was teaching a lesson as a master of the force, as both sides of the force.



No, like that was the son portraying Anakin to Ahsoka. Not that Anakin actually is the Son. My only real thought on this is with them playing the vader themes and it being near a place connected to the Nightsisters, that it was the Son doing that and trying to trick her. Just a thought that popped into my head while watching it.


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Anakin seemed to be in control in the WBW and was easily able to transform himself as well as the place they were at. That's something i'd expect the Father to be able to do and i think he was giving Ahsoka a second chance at life (actually a third), basically saving her life.
And he wants her to be the Daughter, but she's not quite ready just yet.


This is very possible as well and I could see that with Anakin giving her the trial to see if she would be able to withstand the dark side. Would still lend to a possible meeting of all of them, Father (Anakin), Son (Sam Witwer if this is the role they actually have for him), and Ahsoka eventually becoming Daughter in the end. I'd be on board with that.
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
2836 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:03 pm to
It’s Anakin.

Don’t see why the Son would be doing that. Especially with how the whole interaction ends.

The son is also dead. Father is dead. Daughter is dead, but her life force lives on in Ahsoka.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:29 pm to
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The son is also dead. Father is dead. Daughter is dead, but her life force lives on in Ahsoka.



Correct.

There is no Son/Daughter/Father anymore, unless Anakin has spiritually become the Father, which is what the Chosen One's destiny always was.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:53 pm to
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I think it's just as simple as he is the son of a jedi. He is force sensitive, and the force was reaching out to him.


I hope he is setting up Jacen to be Ezra’s padawan
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21450 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:55 pm to
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Clone Wars and Rebels had to polish the prequel turds


At least there was something to polish after the prequels. The sequels have no redeeming qualities. They’re so bad that if Disney announced today they were destroying the films and wiping them from existence, 99.9% of the fan base would lose their minds celebrating their demise. I hate the fact that current story lines have to be written to prop up of explain away those films. It handcuffs the franchise.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25822 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:05 pm to
They probably should just let those sequels lay there and die. They are what they are, but making them not exist would open a bad precedent. I personally would kill of the Rey movie, let it all die.

Star Wars can persist without reference to what happened in the sequels.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
21619 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:16 pm to
Damn I wanna eat Hera’s juicy arse

The sequels ruined everything. I’m guessing Jacen is killed before they take place?
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14810 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:26 pm to
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The sequels ruined everything. I’m guessing Jacen is killed before they take place?


I assume everybody that survives the battle with Thrawn will move to the new galaxy to explain their absence
Posted by Celtic Tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:33 pm to
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I personally would kill of the Rey movie, let it all die


Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109258 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 2:50 pm to
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I hope he is setting up Jacen to be Ezra’s padawan



Would be a nice continuity. Trained by the father and trains the son.
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