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re: 1923 is going to be fantastic!!!

Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:05 pm to
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So so so sloppy. I mean…why?


We stopped last nights episode 10 minutes into it out of confusion. She looks at me and says "did we miss last weeks episode? we never saw her talk to her family from the end of the last one? How did they get from the lunch scene to here?"
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6978 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:26 pm to
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a bench discussion apparently served as a preliminary exam. Oh the legal faux pas of that whole deal.


I didn’t think he got acquitted. I thought they just agreed to release him with no bail until trial.

In any case, and I’m not a legal guy, but I just chalked it up to “it’s in 1923.” They also got into a fist fight in the courtroom and the judge just told them to cut that shite out.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:30 pm to
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I didn’t think he got acquitted. I thought they just agreed to release him with no bail until trial.



That's how I saw it.

While that seemed a bit unbelievable, the sheep fricker telling Dutton he's going to die, saying this out loud in the courtroom, was even more ridiculous.

And his comments basically admitting to it in front of the sheriff are just ignored like it never happened. (That's a Sheridan trademark)

I mean, I know it's fiction and the story has to have some edge and drama to it, but that's so over the top it's comical.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:51 pm to
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eh, it's set 100 years before modern day Yellowstone. They don't talk a lot about James's struggles or Jacob's for that matter.


They wax poetic all the time about the history of the ranch and the blood spilled to keep it, at no time to do they say "God Save the Queen".
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:54 pm to
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I don't recall reading about Catholics killing Indians.

The Mormons had some badasses though.


I'm sure it happened, but roving gangs of priests just nabbing native americans on sight for being surly is high comedy to me. I want to see a spinoff called "The Body of Christ" where these priests rove the frontier absconding with any Native American they choose without plot armor.

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The Mormons had some badasses though.


Even better show idea, Mormons vs Catholics. You know they had to cross paths back in the day.
Posted by Summerchild
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:29 pm to
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And his comments basically admitting to it in front of the sheriff are just ignored like it never happened.


That is when my husband gave up. Said “enough of this foolishness” and went to play guitar.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13215 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:53 pm to
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I don't recall reading about Catholics killing Indians.


It was not long ago the Pope apologized for the genocide and other atrocities the Catholic church did to Native Americans in North America. Just because not covered much in history books does not mean it did not happen. Just saying.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13215 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 4:00 pm to
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I'm sure it happened, but roving gangs of priests just nabbing native americans on sight for being surly is high comedy to me. I want to see a spinoff called "The Body of Christ" where these priests rove the frontier absconding with any Native American they choose without plot armor.


It actually happened more than you think.

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Beginning in 1819 and continuing through 1969, the U.S. government provided the resources and logistical support for the schools, and religious groups, including the Catholic Church, were among the willing recipients. According to the National Native American Boarding School Healing Coalition, by 1926 there were 357 schools in 30 states with more than 60,000 children.


Just in Canada alone

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The Catholic Church ran over half of the residential schools in Canada. More than 150,000 First Nations, Métis and Inuit children were forced to attend the government-funded schools between the 1870s and 1997
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 5:34 pm to
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It was not long ago the Pope apologized for the genocide and other atrocities the Catholic church did to Native Americans in North America.


Another reason he's not my Pope.

Never apologize.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
56444 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:01 pm to
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enough of this foolishness
I watch it like it is complete fiction. GOT has dragons, Harry Potter has a magic wand, YS and the spinoffs have ghost ships, train stations, and plot holes.

I do enjoy the period aspect of it (the Africa portion is much easier on my sensibilities than the Catholics killing Indians are). The Montana scenery is beautiful. Some of the characters are interesting.

I also watch Heartland, that 90s show, and Below Deck so my television bar is not set very high.
Posted by Summerchild
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:15 pm to
True enough…suspension of disbelief is really necessary in most fictional shows. Somehow, though, in the vastness of GoT (minus the season of which we do not speak) and HP, I find fewer incidents that bother me—or maybe just a lower ratio. Dementors? Ok. Commit to it. Make it believable and I am with you. Jon Snow resurrection? Sell it well and I will buy. There’s too much too soon that I can’t buy in 1923.

Agreed on enjoying the scenery and some of the characters. I will watch Yellowstone to the bitter end. Hell, I will watch all of 1923 just to look at Spencer!

My bar is low too. I can quote far too much of Beverly Hills 90210.
Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
897 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:19 pm to
What happened to just watching a show for what it is, and not nitpicking every second of the show.

I watch this and any other show for entertainment and an escape from day to day life. Looking for something to complain about isn’t even on my radar.
Posted by Summerchild
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Member since Dec 2022
382 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:26 pm to
Believe me, I don’t nitpick every second on this or any show. I watch TV for escape as much as anyone and watch a LOT of stupid crap. We watch Love Boat reruns on Saturday night,for God’s sake. But this discussion is about what we think of 1923, and a general complaint that many seem to have is that it seems to drag some and have some plot issues. Ending an episode on a cliffhanger and then moving on in the next as if it never happened? That’s not a nit pick. That’s a major post-production oversight.
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
8439 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:06 pm to
Some thoughts
1) I'll join the chorus on the show being slow
2) The Rainwater arc didn't fit with the tone of the show. It never tied into the Dutton in any way whatsoever. Would be practically unwatchable for anyone who'd never seen Yellowstone before
3) Jack Dutton's wife might be the worst actress I've ever seen and he isn't all that much better.
4) The Spencer stuff was easily the best part of the show but it felt like the first half of the season they had intentions of finishing his story in one season, then halfway through they decided to make it 2 seasons so they slow-played his entire arc to a halt. They added a bunch of stupid crap like the capsized boat, sharks, the royals coming back, etc.
5) What did they have to pay Ford and Mirren to get them to act a second season of this awful writing
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19540 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:20 pm to
The Titanic sideshow was incredible.

We LOL'd when frog boy, poor man's Billy Zane went over board. That was ABSURD but so awesome at the same time.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9629 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:38 pm to
Jack's wife is so hot its distracting
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13215 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:51 pm to
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Agreed on enjoying the scenery and some of the characters.


What makes the show great for me but frustrating as I want to see it move along at times.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10824 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:51 pm to
The schools were probably paid based on number of students.

So there would be incentives to finding wayward yutes and forcing them into schools.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6978 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:59 pm to
I wouldn’t mind the pace of the show so much if the season was longer. I have a feeling that watching season 1 and 2 back to back would be really solid. Last night would have been a fine mid season finale with a one month break, but waiting a year or more to see any resolution sucks.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5130 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:00 pm to
John seems like the guy that wouldn’t want to talk about that anyway. That would mean they took a handout from Alex’s family that would make them look soft.
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