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re: Yet another incredible factoid about the greatness of Sir Barrold Lamar Bonds

Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:04 am to
Posted by barry
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:04 am to
Bonds has zero redeemable qualities for me as a fan. a-hole, cheater, etc. I knkw steroids were everywhere but for a guy who was already a HOF to feel the need to juice just tells you how much he needed to be "the guy". I at least can understand a fringe minor league guy juicing. Oh and did I mention he was an a-hole.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:09 am to
Yeah. At least McGwires muscles were believable. bonds even got huge in the face and neck. He had those cheek muscles I guess.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:25 am to
Meh. Frick Bonds. Never was a fan of his douchy arse
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:30 am to
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I watched them regularly in the 90s and I'd prob have picked Griffey over Bonds.
considering Bonds was better than Griffey at almost everything, I don't see why
Posted by magiLSU
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:10 am to
Offensively, their stats in the 90s were basically a wash.
Defensively, CF >>> LF by a long shot, so Griffey clearly wins.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:11 am to
GOAT
Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:14 am to
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Frick me! And let me guess, he hit .400 against right handed pitchers whose last names ended with S in the month of June at home on night games when the air temp was 20 degrees more then the humidity level all while wearing the same lucky underwear?


I know you're trying to be pithy, but the stats posted in the OP are very relevant. Bonds hit .327 against the best in the game. Thats pretty damn good.
Posted by magiLSU
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:18 am to
It's very good...but, he undoubtedly cheated while doing so. Therefore, he and those stats are tainted and discredited, end of story.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:28 am to
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Bonds has zero redeemable qualities for me as a fan.

This and even his own teammates hated him.

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I mention he was an a-hole.

That's putting it nicely.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:30 am to
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And let me guess, he hit .400 against right handed pitchers whose last names ended with S in the month of June at home on night games when the air temp was 20 degrees more then the humidity level all while wearing the same lucky underwear?




you sir are no wally holland from LBL


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1) Last year though, he was sixth in the American League in hitting right-handers he was facing for the first time...after the seventh inning...at home!

2) An interesting side note: that's the 14th one-run game for the Tigers already this season, tops for any team north of the Mason-Dixon Line, whose home games are not played in a dome.

3) Lou, by the way, has hit .416 lifetime versus Hanley in the month of September in even years, so that certainly bodes well for this at-bat
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:30 am to
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Defensively, CF >>> LF by a long shot, so Griffey clearly wins.


I'd agree with that

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Offensively, their stats in the 90s were basically a wash.


Strongly disagree here. Bonds consistently posted way higher OBPs than Griffey. Griffey's highest wRC+ ever was 164. Pre-steroid Bonds has 8 seasons with a higher wRC+ than that (including some monster seasons north of 190).
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:33 am to
Why wasn't he hitting 60-70 HR's when he was in his prime?

How did he suddenly add 35 pounds of muscle mass in his late 30's and hit 60-70 HR's when he was 37-40 years old?


But by all means, build your shrine to the biggest cheater in the history of professional sports.
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:39 am to
Why is Bonds anymore of a cheater than say Everth Cabrera or the hundreds of other random guys that took PEDs, just cause he was a better player?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:48 am to
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I saw Bonds hit a homerun in person. So that was cool.


I saw him fly out the track in person. In Coors Field.

Same year he broke the single season record.
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 9:49 am
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:48 am to
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Why is Bonds anymore of a cheater than say Everth Cabrera or the hundreds of other random guys that took PEDs, just cause he was a better player?

Because he was a huge a-hole.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31258 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:59 am to
quote:

It's very good...but, he undoubtedly cheated while doing so. Therefore, he and those stats are tainted and discredited, end of story.


Oh theres absolutely no doubt of that. Bonds sudden bulk was only slightly less obvious than Lattimers in The Program.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Frick me! And let me guess, he hit .400 against right handed pitchers whose last names ended with S in the month of June at home on night games when the air temp was 20 degrees more then the humidity level all while wearing the same lucky underwear?



This isn't funny at all. The point of the OP was to show how Bonds did against the best pitchers of his era. You know, those pitchers so good that they received votes as the best pitcher of that season.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Why is Bonds anymore of a cheater than say Everth Cabrera or the hundreds of other random guys that took PEDs, just cause he was a better player?


(1) I never said the other guys weren't cheaters. I liked McGwire and Does, but their numbers meant nothing to me once I found out they were cheaters.

(2) No player's body changed as drastically as Barry Bonds' body did. He put on 35-40 punds of muscle mass in his late 30's. Obviously, he was maxing out on PED's. I bet he took twice as much as McGuire, who was already a big guy who hit 49 HR's as a skinny rookie.

I guess some of you guys will still be worshipping Bonds when he dies in his late 50's from the effects of all the steroids. Why do you think all of these wrestlers die around 55-60, even if they last that long?
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 10:22 am to
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I saw Bonds hit a homerun in person. So that was cool.


I was sitting in right field for Game 6 of the 2002 World Series when Bonds hit a 425' bomb to put the Giants up 5-0 in the 7th inning. The Angels came back and won 6-5 and then went on to win the Series in 7. I have kept the ticket stub in my wallet ever since.

This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 10:27 am
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 10:27 am to
tankyank, well you may not care that he was...is...a dick. The mother with the pre teen boy next to her, asking politely for his autograph post game in his last yr and being told " I don't sign no fricking autographs" I am sure cares a lot about his character. The boy teared up & then dropped his Giant pennant on the parking lot & walked away. Had his mother had a gun, not much doubt this arse wipe could have met his Maker that nite. We were standing near by, heard/saw it all & it was all my wife could do to pull me away: we had our 3 kids with us.- Screw this classless prick.
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