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re: Wow, the bowl projections have changed. Week 11 ESPN Projections.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:24 am to Kracka
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:24 am to Kracka
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how in the frick does LSU still not get into a BCS bowl at 11-1?
Depends if we are in the top 4 we get a guarenteed spot, otherwise the Orange Bowl could take 10-2 Alabama.
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Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:29 am to Kracka
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What I don't understand is say Auburn loses and does go to the sugar bowl, how in the frick does LSU still not get into a BCS bowl at 11-1?
The at-large bids are going to be mighty interesting this year. Basically two of the following are going to get the shaft (assuming they all win out)
TCU or Boise at 12-0 (only one gets an auto qualifier I think?)
LSU 11-1
OSU/Wisconsin/Michigan St 11-1 (only one gets to the Rose Bowl, it will probably be MSU that's left out)
Stanford 11-1
In their projections the Orange took either OSU or Wisconsin over LSU. But personally I think the Sugar would take OSU/Wisconsin over Boise, LSU to the Orange, and an undefeated Boise gets the shaft.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 9:30 am
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:29 am to H-Town Tiger
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The polls punished them for winning by 5 and Utah getting pummled by Notre Dame. They will not be punished again, unless they struggle with their last opponent. No matter waht Boise does, they will not be 2 spots above TCU in the polls, it will come down to the computers. Boise could get a bump if they beat Neveada and Nevada keeps winning from the computers. will it be enough? People with more credibility than you don't think so.
I never said they would be two spots ahead of tcu. I said they would finish ahead of tcu. they may not be punished, but they have no way of jumping boise in the polls unless boise loses, and boise has 3 games left to make a statement, including a game against a ranked opponent.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:30 am to H-Town Tiger
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that's a different division. Boise and TCU are undefeated playing D 1 teams.
And LSU has 1 loss playing an SEC schedule. The difference in an SEC schedule and a Mountain West Conference schedule is equivilant to the difference in a MWC schdule and a Div 1-AA schedule.
You are crazy if you don't think that LSU, Alabama, or Arkansas would not be undefeated playing TCU or Boise State's schedule. Please let me know which team on those schedules would beat any of the three that I listed.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:16 am to Choupique19
How would Boise and TCU finish in the SEC?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:20 am to Muahahaha
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How would Boise and TCU finish in the SEC?
30 losses on a 12 game schedule, no doubt.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:22 am to diat150
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I never said they would be two spots ahead of tcu. I said they would finish ahead of tcu. they may not be punished, but they have no way of jumping boise in the polls unless boise loses, and boise has 3 games left to make a statement, including a game against a ranked opponent.
if they are not 2 spots ahead in the polls then they its all on the computers, the computers will not punish TCU provided they win. Boise will gain in the computers playing Nevada, will it be enough to pass TCU? Again, people with credibility don't think so, they could be wrong, but we will see.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:23 am to Muahahaha
looks like they are picking bama to beat auburn and arky to beat LSU with those bowl placements
could happen
could happen
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:24 am to Choupique19
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And LSU has 1 loss playing an SEC schedule. The difference in an SEC schedule and a Mountain West Conference schedule is equivilant to the difference in a MWC schdule and a Div 1-AA schedule.
No its not. for starters 1AA has fewer scholarships and no where near the resources D1 teams do. Why do you think teams move up to D 1, but others are loathe to move down?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:25 am to Choupique19
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You are crazy if you don't think that LSU, Alabama, or Arkansas would not be undefeated playing TCU or Boise State's schedule.
who said they wouldn't? who cares anyway.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:28 am to Muahahaha
I can't think of a worse NC for me than Oregon/TCU. I'd rather see Boise/TCU play for it all. Or Oregon/Boise.
but no matter, I'll still watch it. :henderson:
but no matter, I'll still watch it. :henderson:
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:32 am to Muahahaha
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Nebraska vs. Pittsburgh
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Auburn vs. Boise State
Are they assuming AU will lose to bama or something? No way AU goes undefeated and gets passed up by TCU.
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Louisiana-Monroe vs. Northern Illinois
ULM goes to a bowl and Texas doesn't? My world has been rocked
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:41 am to Michael J Cocks
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but no matter, I'll still watch it. :henderson:
I'll watch it, and then listen to Cowherd talk about how the ratings sucked and how people claim they like to see the little guy but really don't because of the ratings, and then I'll come on here and post about how dumb Cowherd is.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:43 am to Muahahaha
LSU in outback or cotton. Obviously it's possible, but it's funny how they vastly underrank LSU every single week.
Obviously it's possible, but it's funny how they vastly underrank LSU every single week.Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:49 am to Brageous
Its not about ranking or under ranking. Unless LSU finishes in the top 4 we are not guarenteed a BCS bowl so it would depend on who the bowls prefer vs how many teams have guarenteed spots. Surely the Fiesta would rather LSU or Bama to the Big East winner, but the Big East winner is an AQ.
The Cap one bowl might not want the same team 2 years in a row which would knock us to the Outback or Cotton.
The Cap one bowl might not want the same team 2 years in a row which would knock us to the Outback or Cotton.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:03 am to H-Town Tiger
Thinking about it - LSU is in danger of getting hosed when it comes to bowls if they don't win out and get picked up by the BCS
Capital One - not two years in a row, fans are still pissed about the field from last year too
Cotton - maybe, but playing there against Oregon to open the year... arky or bama might be a safer invite from their point of view
Outback - unfortunately might be the bowl LSU lands in
Capital One - not two years in a row, fans are still pissed about the field from last year too
Cotton - maybe, but playing there against Oregon to open the year... arky or bama might be a safer invite from their point of view
Outback - unfortunately might be the bowl LSU lands in
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:04 am to H-Town Tiger
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You are crazy if you don't think that LSU, Alabama, or Arkansas would not be undefeated playing TCU or Boise State's schedule.
who said they wouldn't? who cares anyway.
Everyone who loves college football should care. Why would we let Boise or TCU in the national title game when they play 90% of their season against cupcakes/rent-a-wins. You know, the guys that LSU, Alabama, Ohio State, etc. schedule for a breather/tune-up game. Meanwhile, Boise and TCU play these guys every week then beat there chest that "Hey, we deserve a title shot". The answer is simple, "No you don't." Getting up to beat a good team once every two months does not make you a national champion.
I was asked how Boise and TCU would finish in the SEC, I think they'd each have either 2 or 3 losses. I'm not calling them bad teams, but they would not go undefeated. Just look at Alabama's schedule and tell me if Boise and TCU would make it through unscathed with this...
3 consecutive weeks
@ Arkansas
Florida
@ South Carolina (coming off of a bye week)
then
@ LSU (coming off of a bye week)
Miss State (coming off of a bye week)
some chump team that is equivilant to a MWC team
Auburn (coming off of a bye week)
TCU almost blew it after beating the almighty Utah, then having to face San Diego State (minus Marshall Faulk)
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:17 am to Choupique19
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Everyone who loves college football should care. Why would we let Boise or TCU in the national title game when they play 90% of their season against cupcakes/rent-a-wins.
They are D 1 teams, if they make the title game it will because they earned it based on the system that is in place and agreed to by all the confereces. How they'd do playing Alabama's scheduel is not relevant.
Want to limit the BCS CG to only BCS teams, good luck with that. Want a playoff, fine, but this whining about schedules is lame. They only way Boise or TCU make the title game is if AU or Oregon lose. If an SEC goes undefeated, it will not be behind a non AQ. It is not possible for multiple teams from the SEC to go undefeated.
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TCU almost blew it after beating the almighty Utah
they were down 14-0 after giving up a defenseive TD, then were up 34-14 and gave up some late garbage TD's. They didn't really almost blow it.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 11:18 am
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:48 am to H-Town Tiger
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if they make the title game it will because they earned it based on the system that is in place and agreed to by all the confereces.
Not all the conferences.
Stupid Notre Dame is the reason for all this crap.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:53 am to diat150
I would be very surprised if Boise goes to the Sugar.
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