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Why isn't band and cheer part of the LHSAA?

Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:35 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39154 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:35 am
In Texas, band and cheer competitions such as marching band competitions fall under the discretion of the UIL, which is the Texas version of the LHSAA.

In LA, band competitions fall under the LMEA, and there is no statewide cheer association (cheer teams compete under national umbrellas such as NCA and UCA).

Was just wondering if this was typical backwards LA life, or if there was a reason these weren't part of the atlhetic association.

Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
6342 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:44 am to
Because the LHSAA governs sports....

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Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6585 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:45 am to
Because this is Louisiana.

Cheer on the Tigers and stop complaining. We will have a festival soon enough.
Posted by Tigerfan016
Member since May 2014
226 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:57 am to
Because band isn’t a sport, and it’s not nearly as big in LA as TX. Concert band falls under LMEA, and there’s not a state organization for marching. Competitive cheer would make a little more sense
Posted by LSUisKING
Edgard
Member since Dec 2007
2994 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Concert band falls under LMEA, and there’s not a state organization for marching.


Partially correct... LMEA is weird.

There was a push for a marching band circuit several years back. It gained traction in the bayou and river parishes (they're still doing the same type of shows there), but too many people (Lafayette Music included) wanted the status quo to remain the same...
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31963 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:07 pm to
The UIL governs basically everything with public schools, from debate competitions to literary contests.

It's a much better system.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
16943 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:15 pm to
Well when you live amongst people who are mostly competent, prideful, educated, and want their communities to move forward, then you get things like UIL, and all the other many great things that you get in Texas.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51653 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Why isn't band and cheer part of the LHSAA?


Because then we’d have to split it by select and nonselect
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27157 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Why isn't band and cheer part of the LHSAA?


I’m just happy they aren’t involved so that they can’t ruin something else.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2296 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:40 pm to
Honest question: how many schools on Louisiana have big thriving bands?

In north Louisiana the only one I know of is West Monroe. Every other band seemed very mediocre.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
16943 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:58 pm to
St. Amant is one
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102254 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:40 am to
quote:

Honest question: how many schools on Louisiana have big thriving bands?

In north Louisiana the only one I know of is West Monroe. Every other band seemed very mediocre


Our local school had a really good band director. He was in the LA Army National Guard band and he got the chance to go full time and be the director. Since then it's been a succession of kids just out of college who stay a year or two and move on. Some years we haven't had a band at all because they weren't able to hire anybody.

Part 2 is that just like sports, band takes time and effort and there are a lot fewer kids willing to put in the work. They'd rather play video games or watch tiktok videos. This mindset is affecting every extracurricular activity.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5852 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 5:19 am to
quote:

The UIL governs basically everything with public schools, from debate competitions to literary contests

Correct! There are just as many schools with multiple state championships in band, choir, debate, one act play as there are for the sports & those schools are just as proud.

I coached at Snyder in the 1990s & there was a big sign on US84 saying 24 state championships since 1965 (18 in one act play) & the town was very proud of it.

We were very competitive in sports too when I was there.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 5:20 am
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11887 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 5:23 am to
Because for better or worse, bands still let morbidly obese clarinet players in their ranks to waddle around and completely destroy the integrity of uniform design…
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16864 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:30 am to
Central Lafourche has more people in the stands when they do a community show than there is for a football game....of course their football team is 0-9 and awful and the band wins competitions.
Posted by LSUisKING
Edgard
Member since Dec 2007
2994 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:41 am to
quote:

Because for better or worse, bands still let morbidly obese clarinet players in their ranks to waddle around and completely destroy the integrity of uniform design…


That's because its inclusive and can still be competitive. That should be celebrated, not mocked.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61453 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:24 am to
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Because the LHSAA governs sports.... AND 3 2 1.....


I get band. If you think those girls at Live Oak aren’t athletes and what they do isn’t a sport though…They’re one of the best programs in the nation. Absolutely insane the things they do.

Live Oak 2023 National Championship
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6804 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Because for better or worse, bands still let morbidly obese clarinet players in their ranks to waddle around and completely destroy the integrity of uniform design…


Well, waddling around and marching is certainly better than sitting on the couch playing video games. There's the possibility that they will waddle around enough to lose a little weight.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

hy isn't band and cheer part of the LHSAA?
In Texas, band and cheer competitions such as marching band competitions fall under the discretion of the UIL, which is the Texas version of the LHSAA.


If following the TX model has even a slim possibility of resulting in something like those A&M "yell leaders" I will petition for an actual LAW against it.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5852 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:14 pm to
Yell leaders represent about 0.000000000350% of the population of Texas.
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