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re: Why do people choose meaningless bowl games over expanding playoffs?
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:55 am to chalmetteowl
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:55 am to chalmetteowl
We need to remind ourselves that back in the 1950s and 1960s the National Champion was crowned BEFORE the bowl games were even played, so, maybe bowl games are meant to be meaningless.
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:56 am to Jack Daniel
No one is choosing meaningless bowl games over expanding playoffs, it's the continued devaluation of the regular season that makes it a terrible idea.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:06 am to The Third Leg
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Nah. Look at these imbalanced schedules across the Big Ten and SEC. Some face the gauntlet, others play 1-2 really tough teams.
Expanding it doesn't fix that.
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14/32 NFL teams make the playoffs for this very reason. CFB has significantly more teams.
not even remotely the same. The talent level from the top NFL teams and the bottom is much closer in the NFL than college. The Raiders are an abysmal team this year, but the Raiders beat the Patriots, one of the best teams in football. The bottom teams in college are not beating the top teams. You don't expand just to add meaningless games where there is zero chance of one of the teams not winning.
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The difference between teams 9-24 isn’t all that big
The only argument this proves is that it would be better off being smaller than it would expanding. You don't add even more teams that have an even bigger gap in talent than you already have, which is already too big. 4-6 teams was perfect, but there's no way they ever reduce teams, it's too much money involved.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:08 am to Jack Daniel
You really shouldn’t care. College football will be revamped very soon. It’ll be a pro league so if you like that you’ll love what’s coming. If you miss the old days of college football watch classic games on YouTube because that atmosphere is never coming back.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:09 am to Jack Daniel
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Yea, James Madison and Tulane will never win the playoffs but atleast the game has purpose and they players aren’t opting out.
I’m not interested in expanding the playoff just so players don’t opt out. I don’t care if undeserving teams have a purpose in the postseason.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:12 am to RandySavage
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No one is choosing meaningless bowl games over expanding playoffs, it's the continued devaluation of the regular season that makes it a terrible idea.
The world changes. Just 50 years ago the Big ten didn’t allow anyone to play in the post season if they didn’t get the Rose Bowl bid. You could be ranked top 5 and sit home while bowl games proliferated. It wasn’t until 1975 they started allowing for wide participation in post season play.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:15 am to iwyLSUiwy
None of this solves for the lack of real opportunities for 80% of all programs to have meaningful post season play. If that carries on for too long, people will lose interest except for the powerhouses. It takes millions upon millions of dollars from fans and boosters to compete in these major leagues and just make it into the top 25, nobody going to do that shite for 20-30 years with no realistic hope of anything other than catching lightning in a bottle.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:15 am to RandySavage
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No one is choosing meaningless bowl games over expanding playoffs, it's the continued devaluation of the regular season that makes it a terrible idea.
The only way the regular season gets devalued w/an expanded playoff is if the TV networks, SEC, and Big 10 get their way turning it into a pure invitational w/zero auto bids for conference winners.
If you want the regular season to mean more you have to give every conference winner an auto bid. Tough shite if that means a mediocre team can get in. Join a different conference if it's too unfair to play so many big bad SEC/Big 10 teams.
The "best teams" arbitrarily picked by a committee that has zero constancy in how it evaluates teams bullshite is what hurts the regular season more than anything.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:53 am to Dr RC
The regular season is devalued when a team from the big ten or sec can lose 2-3 games and still get in. You only play 4, maybe 5 tops, games it's even possible to lose. Shouldn't get into a playoff for being basically a 500 team
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:17 pm to Jack Daniel
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We need to expand the playoffs and incorporate these sponsored bowls into the playoffs.
How many fricking games do you want teams to play? 3-4 is beyond enough. Giant playoff formats are completely retarded.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:43 pm to TheDeathValley
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Even in the four team playoff, the 3/4th's of the games were blowouts.
BCS had it right all along.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:01 pm to Jack Daniel
Expanded playoffs in football
is retarded.
Calling a game meaningless doesn’t mean it’s actually meaningless. Your post and opinion though those are meaningless for sure.
is retarded.
Calling a game meaningless doesn’t mean it’s actually meaningless. Your post and opinion though those are meaningless for sure.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:27 pm to theCAW
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We already have had coaches opting out of the playoffs in the second year of 12 teams
No coach opted out. Coaches took other jobs because the transfer portal and recruiting day are at a stupid point in time in regards to the season, but no coach voluntarily left his team in the playoffs.
If you’re referring to lane, he wanted to coach ole miss but was asked to leave. Big difference from opting out in my opinion.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:34 pm to Champagne
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We need to remind ourselves that back in the 1950s and 1960s the National Champion was crowned BEFORE the bowl games were even played, so, maybe bowl games are meant to be meaningless.
Or maybe being crowned national champion in a sport with 100+ teams, arrayed in multiple different conferences, many of whom would never play each other, was never the original goal of the sport?
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:52 pm to Jack Daniel
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The argue against expanding college playoffs is “it will devalue games”
One of the greatest things about the CFB regular season compared to the NFL was that 1 loss was crippling to a team with championship hopes. The season was on the line every week if you wanted a shot at the national title.
As it stands with 12 teams, your first 2 teams out were Notre Dame and BYU.....both of which only played 3 ranked teams all season and both lost 2 out of 3. Beating up on inferior opponents all season and only being able to win 1 out of 3 against quality opponents shouldn't be playoff worthy.
Do what you want with the non-playoff bowl games, but if anything.....the playoff field size needs to shrink, not expand. Nobody outside of the top 8 or maybe 10 has any realistic shot of running the gauntlet in the playoffs and getting 3-4 wins in a row over top 5-10 teams.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:01 pm to Jack Daniel
People get what they get. People have no voice in the decision. Money is the only voice that changes anything. In the words of the GOAT: it is what it is.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:25 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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not even remotely the same. The talent level from the top NFL teams and the bottom is much closer in the NFL than college. The Raiders are an abysmal team this year, but the Raiders beat the Patriots, one of the best teams in football. The bottom teams in college are not beating the top teams. You don't expand just to add meaningless games where there is zero chance of one of the teams not winning.
expanding it doesn't mean letting more G5 teams in
You don't think ND, Texas, Vandy could beat half the playoff field or more?
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