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re: Why are offensive players allowed to forcefully stiff arm defensive players to the head?

Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:33 pm to
Hell, an OL or DL will get flagged if their hands get blocked/pushed into their opponent's helmet sometimes
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

If a linebacker punched a running back in the helmet in the open field they are 100% getting a flag



I don't doubt it, but it doesn't happen because it gives no advantage to the defender. Its a moot point.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

They'll call a facemask on a ball carrier these days if they stiff arm and grab onto the defender's helmet.
No, they won't.

Preach, OP. This has bugged me for way too long.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:36 pm to
They are also allowed to lower their heads.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:41 pm to
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They'll call a facemask on a ball carrier these days if they stiff arm and grab onto the defender's helmet.
No, they won't.



DeAndre Hopkins gets TD called back for facemask
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:55 pm to
I know by offensive players you meant ball carrier, and of course, that is the rub. Ball carriers are allowed to stiff arm, and while I guess its a double standard, I hope they never take it out of the game.

That said, as Goedert scored last night. I thought he might be the first player to get an unnecessary roughness penalty while running with the football since Larry Csonka.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

If a linebacker punched a running back in the helmet in the open field they are 100% getting a flag

Josh Allen got punched in the head repeatedly with no flag.
LINK

Pretty sure I remember him taking a right cross while scoring a TD in another game.

It is one thing to try a slap/strip, but letting guys throw closed fist punches toward an opponent has always struck me as overly permissive.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:32 pm to
That DB should ask for Witness Protection after that.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:36 pm to
I’m on your side on this. It’s a double standard.
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:42 pm to
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They are also allowed to lower their heads.


Countless times I have seen this happen only for the defensive player to receive the penalty.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:48 pm to
Ever since targeting has been a thing I've been on a crusade to make offensive players responsible for the targeting they cause. A HUGE amount of targeting is caused by the offensive player lowering their helmet to the level where the defensive player's helmet is at, creating the H2H/forcible contact to the head (or whatever term they turn it into) that gets the defensive player in trouble.

Sometimes we're talking well below the shoulders into the abdomen area.
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3858 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:51 pm to
Cause the fans love scoring. Could be 3rd and 25 where a defensive holding of five yards is automatic first down. Pass interference automatic first down. Hold on offense though, you get to repeat the down. Everything favors the offensive side of the ball. There should be more loss of down penalties.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:29 pm to
Why can a RB lead with his helmet, using it as a battering ram but a DB can't?
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:32 pm to


That was about to be an absolutely beautiful form tackle before the GB returner lowered his helmet to initiate that contact.
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