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Why Am I Supposed To Care If Some Athlete Gambles
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:34 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:34 am
The pearl clutching over this baseball player and his supposed gambling is laughable to me and I just don't understand what the big deal is supposed to be. It's his money he can piss it away anyway he wants.
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:41 am to CHGAR
Easy step from gambling to stat shaving and throwing games. Huge monetary temptation to do it. If your sport is infected with that you lose your sport.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:50 am to CHGAR
Its all fun and games until your team starts betting on their unders
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:59 am to CHGAR
Bc athletes can affect the outcomes of game
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:02 am to CHGAR
Morals, dammit! Morals!
…or something like that
…or something like that
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:05 am to elposter
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Easy step from gambling to stat shaving and throwing games. Huge monetary temptation to do it.
Ohtani gets paid like 350k per start. It would be a full time job to try to bet that much on a baseball game complete with an entire staff of runners. You can't just go online and place a bet for 100k on a regular season mlb game
I saw speculation he was point shaving in the game against the braves in 2022 because there were large bets in Japan on the braves and braves over 6.5 runs and shohei gave up a lot of runs. Then when I looked at the game log and he pitched 6 shutout innings before the wheels fell off. That doesn't scream point shaving to me
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 8:11 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:05 am to CHGAR
One of the dumber questions I’ve seen asked on this board, and seemingly in good faith. Well done.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:16 am to CHGAR
That kind of “just give me my bread and circuses” attitude is why the Black Sox famously “won” their jury trial in Chicago in 1920 even though they were guilty as hell.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:16 am to CHGAR
Umm go look at whats happened over the last decade or so in the Serie A (Italian Soccer League) and countless lower tier pro tennis matches.
Gambling seriously dilutes the product. Turns it in to pro wrestling where you have to question if what you are watching is "real". Thats why you should care.
Sports may be the last true bastion, outside of war, where you figure it out on the field, free from encumbrances, and left entirely to your efforts on it. You frick with that and you lose all credibility.
Thats why ive been so blown away by pro sports welcoming of gambling in all their marketing. Talk about a deal with the devil. I think because of this and the TV money pro sports will look totally different in 10-15 years. shite basically will be pro wrestling and there is nothing any of us can do to stop it.
Gambling seriously dilutes the product. Turns it in to pro wrestling where you have to question if what you are watching is "real". Thats why you should care.
Sports may be the last true bastion, outside of war, where you figure it out on the field, free from encumbrances, and left entirely to your efforts on it. You frick with that and you lose all credibility.
Thats why ive been so blown away by pro sports welcoming of gambling in all their marketing. Talk about a deal with the devil. I think because of this and the TV money pro sports will look totally different in 10-15 years. shite basically will be pro wrestling and there is nothing any of us can do to stop it.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:19 am to CHGAR
Baseball, in particular, had a checkered past with gambling. Read about the Black Sox scandal. The issue isn't how he spends his money but how that can impact the integrity of the game.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:23 am to Corinthians420
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Ohtani gets paid like 350k per start. It would be a full time job to try to bet that much on a baseball game complete with an entire staff of runners. You can't just go online and place a bet for 100k on a regular season mlb game
You allow it at the top, it will migrate to every level of the sport. The slippery slope is real
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:23 am to Corinthians420
The issue isn't that he gambled its that he used an illegal bookie. MLB policy is he can wager just not on baseball. Gov'ment just wants that tax revenue.
and yes you can wager $100k online on mlb games.
and yes you can wager $100k online on mlb games.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:27 am to UnitedFruitCompany
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Umm go look at whats happened over the last decade or so in the Serie A (Italian Soccer League) and countless lower tier pro tennis matches.
Gambling seriously dilutes the product. Turns it in to pro wrestling where you have to question if what you are watching is "real". Thats why you should care.
Sports may be the last true bastion, outside of war, where you figure it out on the field, free from encumbrances, and left entirely to your efforts on it. You frick with that and you lose all credibility.
Thats why ive been so blown away by pro sports welcoming of gambling in all their marketing. Talk about a deal with the devil. I think because of this and the TV money pro sports will look totally different in 10-15 years. shite basically will be pro wrestling and there is nothing any of us can do to stop it.
Gambling on sports has always happened. The reason players are getting caught now is because it is legal and done on apps that can be tracked.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:31 am to Corinthians420
In baseball at least, it is perfectly fine for players, etc., to legally gamble on anything except baseball. Emphasis on LEGALLY. Gambling with bookies is inherently illegal so it’s forbidden. What bookies have apps?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:32 am to ks_nola
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and yes you can wager $100k online on mlb games.
Once you start winning money fanduel and draftkings will limit your bet sizes to $20-$50
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:34 am to CHGAR
Most jobs, especially high paying jobs have reasonable rules that must be adhered to and This isn’t an unreasonable ask of players
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:44 am to Corinthians420
That may be the case for some but not all. VIP don't get limited even when they win.
other issue with ohtani is he wired money to an illegal operator so that's probably wire fraud. another reason he know claims no knowledge.
other issue with ohtani is he wired money to an illegal operator so that's probably wire fraud. another reason he know claims no knowledge.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:48 am to TROLA
quote:Yep. As a CPA, if you are in public accounting you are not going to be able to hold stock in certain companies based on your firms involvement. I see this very similar
Most jobs, especially high paying jobs have reasonable rules that most be adhered to and This isn’t an unreasonable ask of players
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:50 am to ks_nola
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That may be the case for some but not all. VIP don't get limited even when they win.
If they win consistently they will be limited. It's just the way of the business. They limit people just for arbitrage betting and specifically taking advantage of good lines.
I agree with you on the ohtani thing, they found about the legal issues and changed their story
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:06 am to Corinthians420
again your statement is true but not for all. High roller / VIPS don't get limited. most lose more than they win so they are coveted and catered to keep them. Sharps and line error shoppers get slapped with limits. My SO is C suite for one of these operators.
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