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re: What makes Brady so damn good? Tony G had a little insight to that question.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:25 pm to Athos
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:25 pm to Athos
Borrowing a Tweet (tGOAT my arse). He's a dink and dunk pocket passer who knows where to go with the ball.
Tom Brady career AFC-Championship Game stats (13 games):
62.3% CMP / 7.0 YPA / 18 TD / 14 INT / 83.3 RATING
His teams win in spite of him.
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Mahomes outplayed him in a big way:
Mahomes had 117 rating, 3 TD, 0 INT, 295 yd, 4 sacks.
Brady had 77 rating, 1 TD, 2 INT, 346 yd, 0 sacks.
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The guy has a horseshoe up his arse:
Some AFC Championship Game performances from Tom Brady that he WON:
115 YDS / 0 TD / 0 INT / 84.3 RATING
237 YDS / 1 TD / 1 INT / 76.1 RATING
209 YDS / 2 TD / 3 INT / 66.4 RATING
239 YDS / 0 TD / 2 INT / 57.5 RATING
348 YDS / 1 TD / 2 INT / 77.1 RATING
Tom Brady career AFC-Championship Game stats (13 games):
62.3% CMP / 7.0 YPA / 18 TD / 14 INT / 83.3 RATING
His teams win in spite of him.
-------------
Mahomes outplayed him in a big way:
Mahomes had 117 rating, 3 TD, 0 INT, 295 yd, 4 sacks.
Brady had 77 rating, 1 TD, 2 INT, 346 yd, 0 sacks.
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The guy has a horseshoe up his arse:
Some AFC Championship Game performances from Tom Brady that he WON:
115 YDS / 0 TD / 0 INT / 84.3 RATING
237 YDS / 1 TD / 1 INT / 76.1 RATING
209 YDS / 2 TD / 3 INT / 66.4 RATING
239 YDS / 0 TD / 2 INT / 57.5 RATING
348 YDS / 1 TD / 2 INT / 77.1 RATING
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 5:28 pm
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:38 pm to Bass Tiger
d-linemen are afraid to hit him because they will draw a bogus roughing the passer or personal foul call. Thus, he gets extra time to throw and extra sets of downs more often than any other qb. He doesn't need the help, but he gets it anyways.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:40 pm to Bass Tiger
Dink and dunk offense. Also, prevent defenses.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:48 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Dink and dunk offense.
Dink and dunk offenses with hardly any weapons on the outside for the majority of his career. How is it the Patriots are the only team to have figured out this winning formula?
His best target is a TE on the cusp of retirement while his best wide out is a 5'10" white guy named Julian Edelman.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:57 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:and guys like Pete Carroll who won't hand it to beast mode at the one yard line
he has someone like dee ford line up in the neutral zone to take away a game losing interception.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:57 pm to Bass Tiger
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What makes Brady so damn good?
There's a lot of factors that contribute to answering this inquiry but, in my estimation, it's primarily his work ethic, the chip on his shoulder from all the "experts" who doubted him, and his ability to execute whatever offensive scheme the Pats utilize to near perfection. When we combine all that together, it all amounts to arguably the greatest QB of his generation, TB12's quite literally the SCARIEST QB to bet against because of how clutch he is with high stakes games on the line, the dude simply has IT.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:57 pm to RollTide1987
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How is it the Patriots are the only team to have figured out this winning formula?
Because they have Belichick, one of the top 2 or 3 greatest coaches in NFL history.
Look at his record without Brady. They still win.
That roughing penalty he was the recipient of yesterday was a horrific call, and they always seem to be the ones getting those gifts. (Same for the overturn of the fumble call).
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:59 pm to RollTide1987
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How is it the Patriots are the only team to have figured out this winning formula?
They've got Belichick, a man who is clearly the best coach in American sports history.
ETA - Brady is a great QB. He's easily a top 10 QB, but when paired with the GOAT coach, he's had the undisputed GOAT career.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 6:04 pm to slackster
Not sure if this is true, but allegedly:
quote:
The new book from Ian O’Connor regarding the long-time Patriots coach contains a potentially inflammatory quote from an unnamed assistant coach regarding Brady and the team’s ability to win without him.
“[If] you gave us any of the top 15 [quarterbacks in the NFL], we could do it,” the unnamed assistant coach told O’Connor. “I don’t think the coaches view Tom as special as everyone else in football does. [Owner Robert Kraft] thinks Tom is the greatest gift ever, but the coaches don’t.”
Posted on 1/21/19 at 6:17 pm to slackster
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They've got Belichick, a man who is clearly the best coach in American sports history.
ETA - Brady is a great QB. He's easily a top 10 QB, but when paired with the GOAT coach, he's had the undisputed GOAT career.
Right on the money, essentially the same applied to Joe Montana in his day because he was coached by arguably the best coach of his era, maybe all-time, and supported by a criminally underrated defense and did what he did to the highest degree, thats essentially why I don't penalize people for their supporting cast because we need to take things for what they are, Joe and Tom executed their respective offenses at the highest level, their defenses upheld their ends of the bargain and therefore championships occurred, that's the PRECISE reason football's the ultimate team game.
FWIW: I don't measure quarterbacks on titles I measure them on performance, titles are lagniappe to their case because of how complete team-oriented the sport of football truly is and no one plays 2 ways anymore, legendary QBs can be nullified by putrid defenses and that's why I think we shouldn't strictly measure them by titles
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:07 pm to RollTide1987
Why the frick are those tiny arse white guys perpetually underrated? Brady is shite without those quick little gnats that are some of the best route runners in the game. Seriously. Edelman always eats because no slot corner can seem to stay on him. Same for White.
Gronkowski has lost some steps but he’s still a pain in the arse to cover and is a mean blocker.
Like I said. System O. And grudgingly one of the best systems in the game for a variety of reasons.
Gronkowski has lost some steps but he’s still a pain in the arse to cover and is a mean blocker.
Like I said. System O. And grudgingly one of the best systems in the game for a variety of reasons.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:16 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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FWIW: I don't measure quarterbacks on titles I measure them on performance, titles are lagniappe to their case because of how complete team-oriented the sport of football truly is and no one plays 2 ways anymore, legendary QBs can be nullified by putrid defenses and that's why I think we shouldn't strictly measure them by titles
Agreed to a point.
I think you can look at performance to categorize a QB as good, bad, elite, HOFer, legendary, etc. But if I'm trying to differentiate between two guys who are close, it's really, really hard not to look at titles. The name of the game is to win championships.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:46 pm to Gator Mike
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But if I'm trying to differentiate between two guys who are close, it's really, really hard not to look at titles. The name of the game is to win championships.
But what if one QB has a worse defense or worse running game or worse HC or worse other things and, on that account, don't win or advance to the playoffs or SB more than the other but by every metric and intangible is a better QB? It's not so black or white, bro, there's nuance to this. On the surface, I'm not buying your point, you're gonna have to provide comparable examples to illustrate it. FWIW I'm not minimizing the point of the game but it's such a team game that's patently unfair to penalize QBs for stuff that's beyond their control like DEFENSE.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:49 pm to RollTide1987
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Dink and dunk offenses with hardly any weapons on the outside for the majority of his career. How is it the Patriots are the only team to have figured out this winning formula?
His best target is a TE on the cusp of retirement while his best wide out is a 5'10" white guy named Julian Edelman.
Yep, and they win 11-13 games each year, and are now in like their 10th SB in the last 15 years or something. I don't get why other coaches aren't doing the same thing.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:54 pm to Bass Tiger
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Great arm, smart decision making, with a cool demeanor and unflappable confidence at all times
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No doubt. Couple that with the desire to win and then to take less money to help the team afford talent and I'll be damn if you don't have a Brady GOAT.
Think about this...
Bill Belichick is 261-123 for his career
But he is only 55-62 without Tom Brady
and 206-61 with Tom Brady
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:53 pm to Loserman
quote:shhh dont bring facts up on this board. They are shunned
Bill Belichick is 261-123 for his career
But he is only 55-62 without Tom Brady
and 206-61 with Tom Brady
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:05 pm to genro
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Belichick had another HC job, with Nick Saban at DC, and got fired for poor performance
That is massively simplifying an extremely complex situation.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:06 pm to Athos
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Like I said. System O. And grudgingly one of the best systems in the game for a variety of reasons.
So what system do they run?
This is such a lazy and dumb argument. The Patriots offensive systems have been incredibly varied over the course of Brady's career.
They were a run heavy play action team from 2001 to 2004, prostyle 2005 and 2006, went full run and gun spread in 2007, did the army of midgets in the early 2010's, had one of the more unique offenses where the tight ends were featured as 2 of the 3 main targets, culminating in Brady having some of the best stats and ratings after 2 seconds for the last 3 years by extending plays and going deep far more often than almost any other time in his career.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:08 pm to Jcorye1
EXACTLY!
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:09 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It’s pretty well documented that Belichick used his failures in Cleveland to become the guy he has been in New England. He took over a 3-13 team as a 38 year old rookie HC in Cleveland
He didn’t become a HC for 5 years after being fired from the Browns.
He didn’t become a HC for 5 years after being fired from the Browns.
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