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re: What is your definition of a sport?

Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:12 pm to
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Tennis
Track & Field
Golf

Sports. Not remotely debatable.
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Bowling
Skiing
NASCAR/Indy Racing
Fishing
Skateboarding (and other X-Games activities)

Not sports. I guess debatable.
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Cheerleading
Bull Fighting
Ping Pong

Not sports. Not debatable.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:13 pm to
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Bowling - No
Tennis - Yes
Track & Field - Yes
Skiing - Yes
Golf - Yes
Cheerleading - No
Bull Fighting - No
NASCAR/Indy Racing - No
Fishing - No
Skateboarding (and other X-Games activities) - No
Ping Pong - No

Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:13 pm to
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Golf - is a sport, but I wouldn't call them athletes.


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I define an athlete as somebody who can improve their physical skills and that means they can improve in their sport just by getting more "athletic".


So you contradicted your own rules to fit your own personal zeitgeist. Cool.
Posted by LL012697
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:18 pm to
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If ESPN covers it, it's a sport IMO


inb4 spelling bee
Posted by Volmanac
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:19 pm to
A competition where the majority of the participants are of African descent.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:20 pm to
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NASCAR/Indy Racing - is a sport, but not athletes.


As far as NASCAR goes 10-15 years ago I would've agreed with you as there were still plenty of Kenny Schrader types driving but nowadays all the drivers work out and are in great shape so I say they are athletes
Posted by kidbourbon
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Bowling
Tennis
Track & Field
Skiing
Golf
Cheerleading
Bull Fighting
NASCAR/Indy Racing
Fishing
Skateboarding (and other X-Games activities)
Ping Pong



Why in the world did you put track and field on the second list. Track and field is the only pure sport there is. And when I say "pure", I mean non-contrived.

Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:24 pm to
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As far as NASCAR goes 10-15 years ago I would've agreed with you as there were still plenty of Kenny Schrader types driving but nowadays all the drivers work out and are in great shape so I say they are athletes


Irrelevant.

You could take the ten best athletes in the world, and have them do a fap-off, and the fact that they're athletic doesn't make fapping a sport.
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:26 pm to
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Not sports. Not debatable.


Nonsense. There is no reasonable definition of the word "sport" that excludes ping pong. Go ahead and try. I'll wait.

Ping Pong is unquestionably a sport.
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:28 pm to
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Bowling
Tennis.......Yes
Track & Field........ Yes
Skiing ....... Don't know enough to comment
Golf ........ Yes
Cheerleading ......... Yes
Bull Fighting ......... No
NASCAR/Indy Racing .........Yes
Fishing ........ I think so
Skateboarding (and other X-Games activities)....No
Ping Pong....... Yes


Cheerleading is a sport but skateboarding isn't? How you drawing lines, holmes?

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:32 pm to
Bull fighting, rock climbing, and car racing.

ETA:

Not NASCAR. I'm talking about the unregulated, show up and see who is faster car racing.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:33 pm to
My personal subjective definition says Ping Pong is not a sport. It's a competitive activity.. Like Billiards or foosball. And I love ping pong.

It's like halfway between a board game and a sport.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:34 pm to
everything on there minus nascar and fishing is a sport in my opininon
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Bowling
Tennis
Track & Field
Skiing
Golf
Cheerleading
Bull Fighting
NASCAR/Indy Racing
Fishing
Skateboarding (and other X-Games activities)
Ping Pong


The only one of these that has a clear-cut "not a sport" argument is Bull Fighting.

I'm tempted to argue that cheerleading isn't a sport, but that's a slippery slope. If cheerleading isn't a sport then there goes Figure Skating, Gymnastics, and diving (other sports where winners are determined by judges).

Fishing and Racecar driving don't require athleticism. So maybe if you define a sport as requiring athleticism then you can exclude those. (I anxiously await every fat redneck and their cousin on this board arguing how much athleticism is required to drive a car.)
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:36 pm to
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everything on there minus nascar and fishing is a sport in my opininon


Hey, somebody agrees with me.

ETA: except on bull fighting.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:37 pm to
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So you contradicted your own rules to fit your own personal zeitgeist. Cool.

You can't compete in golf on raw athleticism. Bubba Watson hits the ball as far as anybody.

Just because Bo Jackson is one of the most athletic people ever doesn't mean he could ever come close to being a good golfer just because he's athletic.

That's my point.

If you can drastically improve in your sport by going from a Bubba Watson body to a Bo Jackson body, then the competitors in that sport are athletes. If the difference isn't very great, then the competitors are not athletes.

Bubba Watson could have Bo Jackson's body tomorrow and he wouldn't be any better as a golfer than he is now.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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33774 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:39 pm to
im on the fence with bull fighting. ill give it the nod just because
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33774 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:40 pm to
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I agree with the opponent component.

So a marathon or cross-country skiing where everyone is on the course at the same time and some strategy is involved, far more of a sport to me than each person making a timed run.
I was ready to argue your answer for track until; I read this. Not sure I agree with it but it makes sense
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:41 pm to
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My personal subjective definition says Ping Pong is not a sport. It's a competitive activity.. Like Billiards or foosball. And I love ping pong.

(2)
It's like halfway between a board game and a sport


(1)
Glad to see you agree that you can't offer up any reasonable definition of sport that excludes ping pong.

If you're arguing ping pong or billiards aren't sports, get ready to mark golf off the list as well. At least if you're being principled.

(2)
Huh?
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:42 pm to
Sports involve athletic movements and have an objective measurement to decide who wins and loses. Al races are sports, golf is a sport, and bowling is a sport. Ice Skating is an athletic exhibition. Chess is not a sport. It is a game.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:46 pm
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