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re: What is your definition of a sport?
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:44 pm to ClientNumber9
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:44 pm to ClientNumber9
Cheerleading is what you do at sporting events. It's not a sporting event.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
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You can't compete in golf on raw athleticism. Bubba Watson hits the ball as far as anybody.
Just because Bo Jackson is one of the most athletic people ever doesn't mean he could ever come close to being a good golfer just because he's athletic.
That's my point.
If you can drastically improve in your sport by going from a Bubba Watson body to a Bo Jackson body, then the competitors in that sport are athletes. If the difference isn't very great, then the competitors are not athletes.
Bubba Watson could have Bo Jackson's body tomorrow and he wouldn't be any better as a golfer than he is now.
This is silly. There are two basic components to athleticism: "raw athleticism" (agility, speed, leaping ability....basically everything you do with your feet), and hand-eye coordination. Pretty much every sport requires some combination of those two components.
Basketball and tennis are nearly 50/50.
Football, at every position but two, is nearly all raw athleticism.
Track is all raw athleticism.
Golf is basically 100% hand-eye.
Baseball is probably 98% hand-eye.
So be careful with excluding golf under your stated rationale. It doesn't hold up.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
This:
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Denote sports.
All sports are competitions, not all competition are sports.
The two primary components of a sport are:
1) Objective Scoring
2) Direct opponent interference
This makes things like Track and Field, Golf, poker, etc. All COMPETITIONS, but they aren't sports. I also would add in a 3rd component and be more strict something like: The physical body exerts the majority of energy consumed during the sport. Or something like that, just to be more clear.
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A sport is a contest which requires physicality and has a definite winner not picked by a judge.
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Any athletic exercise where your opponent can DIRECTLY affect what you do.
Denote sports.
All sports are competitions, not all competition are sports.
The two primary components of a sport are:
1) Objective Scoring
2) Direct opponent interference
This makes things like Track and Field, Golf, poker, etc. All COMPETITIONS, but they aren't sports. I also would add in a 3rd component and be more strict something like: The physical body exerts the majority of energy consumed during the sport. Or something like that, just to be more clear.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:47 pm to Freauxzen
Did not want to be stuck at the bottom...
Sports involve athletic movements and have an objective measurement to decide who wins and loses. Races are sports, golf is a sport, and bowling is a sport. Ice Skating is an athletic exhibition. Chess is not a sport. It is a game.
Sports involve athletic movements and have an objective measurement to decide who wins and loses. Races are sports, golf is a sport, and bowling is a sport. Ice Skating is an athletic exhibition. Chess is not a sport. It is a game.
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:47 pm to meauxses
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Cheerleading is what you do at sporting events. It's not a sporting event.
They have cheerleading competitions. They are highly competitive.
If cheerleading isn't a sport, then figure skating, gymnastics, and diving aren't either. And a few others I'm probably forgetting.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:47 pm to kidbourbon
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Glad to see you agree that you can't offer up any reasonable definition of sport that excludes ping pong.
If you're arguing ping pong or billiards aren't sports, get ready to mark golf off the list as well. At least if you're being principled.
Is air hockey a sport? Is putt-putt golf a sport?
No. But real hockey and real golf are sports. Just like real tennis is and table tennis is not.
How about this.. if it can be played at a Dave and Buster's then it's not a sport. There's my definition.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:48 pm to ULSU
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Did not want to be stuck at the bottom...
Sports involve athletic movements and have an objective measurement to decide who wins and loses. Races are sports, golf is a sport, and bowling is a sport. Ice Skating is an athletic exhibition. Chess is not a sport. It is a game
Finally, a man with principles.
But there's one problem. Now boxing isn't a sport either.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:49 pm to Pedro
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I was ready to argue your answer for track until; I read this. Not sure I agree with it but it makes sense
Just my opinion, of course.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:50 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Is air hockey a sport? Is putt-putt golf a sport?
No. But real hockey and real golf are sports. Just like real tennis is and table tennis is not.
How about this.. if it can be played at a Dave and Buster's then it's not a sport. There's my definition.
If putt putt golf isn't a sport then golf isn't a sport. Period.
And you can't fit a putt putt course in D&B's.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:52 pm to kidbourbon
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If putt putt golf isn't a sport then golf isn't a sport. Period. And you can't fit a putt putt course in D&B's.
Alright you win. Putt putt golf is a sport and ping pong is not.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:53 pm to kidbourbon
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But there's one problem. Now boxing isn't a sport either.
Boxing only goes to judging in case of a tie... it's a gray area.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:54 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Alright you win. Putt putt golf is a sport and ping pong is not.
Badminton?
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:56 pm to LSUBoo
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Boxing only goes to judging in case of a tie... it's a gray area.
But it's a tie all the damn time.
I liked your definition, but it does take boxing out of the picture, and so I'm reluctant to sign on with it because I think boxing is a very pure form of sport.
Old school boxing would fit under your definition. They would fight until somebody got knocked out.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:59 pm to PhiTiger1764
Another example that I'm curious about is horse racing. Judging by the responses in this thread in regards to bull riding, I think that the general consensus would be that it is not a sport, but maybe it is if the horse is considered the athlete.
Also, if you look at a very broad perspective of the word sport then fishing and hunting definitely fit. I think that a fair argument could be made that these two activities were actually the original sports.
I think that maybe the consensus of what makes a sport may be too specific for me. I think that sports is a very broad word. I think that what most people are describing as sports might better be specifically described as "athletic games" although this in itself would fall under the broader heading of sports. Maybe sports are just the activity of exerting the body in conjunction with the mind. The more emphasis that there is on exertion of the body the more pure the sport.
Also, if you look at a very broad perspective of the word sport then fishing and hunting definitely fit. I think that a fair argument could be made that these two activities were actually the original sports.
I think that maybe the consensus of what makes a sport may be too specific for me. I think that sports is a very broad word. I think that what most people are describing as sports might better be specifically described as "athletic games" although this in itself would fall under the broader heading of sports. Maybe sports are just the activity of exerting the body in conjunction with the mind. The more emphasis that there is on exertion of the body the more pure the sport.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:59 pm to PrimeTime Money
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You can't compete in golf on raw athleticism.
There are very few sports you can be very competitive at with raw athleticism, it requires skill as well.
Just because Bo Jackson is one of the most athletic people ever doesn't me he could ever come close to being a good soccer or hockey player either. It would take a lot of time.
Just like becoming a good golfer.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:05 pm to kidbourbon
quote:This isn't true at all. The main thing that separates Div 1 and Div 2 college baseball is athleticism, size, power, velocity, etc.
Baseball is probably 98% hand-eye.
There is much more athleticism to it than you think.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:06 pm to KosmoCramer
One more thing about your definition that debunks it at least a little:
I would say that professional athletes are more apt to become better than average at golf as opposed to their non-professional counterparts on average.
I would say that professional athletes are more apt to become better than average at golf as opposed to their non-professional counterparts on average.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:07 pm to kidbourbon
quote:Hand-eye coordination is not raw athleticism and I never said it was.
This is silly. There are two basic components to athleticism: "raw athleticism" (agility, speed, leaping ability....basically everything you do with your feet), and hand-eye coordination. Pretty much every sport requires some combination of those two components.
I'd put hand-eye coordination under "skill".
Somebody with great hand-eye coordination has the potential to develop more skill than somebody with less.
You need hand-eye coordination to crochet or play a guitar... but I don't consider those things "athletic".
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:08 pm to PrimeTime Money
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You need hand-eye coordination to crochet or play a guitar
Blind people crochet and play guitar
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:09 pm to ClientNumber9
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What is your definition of a sport?
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The precise definition of what separates a sport from other leisure activities varies between sources. The closest to an international agreement on a definition is provided by SportAccord, which is the association for all the largest international sports federations (including association football, athletics, cycling, tennis, equestrian sports and more), and is therefore the de facto representative of international sport.
SportAccord uses the following criteria, determining that a sport should:[1]
have an element of competition
be in no way harmful to any living creature
not rely on equipment provided by a single supplier (excluding proprietary games such as arena football)
not rely on any "luck" element specifically designed into the sport
They also recognise that sport can be primarily physical (such as rugby or athletics), primarily mind (such as chess or go), predominantly motorised (such as Formula 1 or powerboating), primarily co-ordination (such as billiard sports), or primarily animal-supported (such as equestrian sport).
There has been an increase in the application of the term "sport" to a wider set of non-physical challenges such as electronic sports, especially due to the large scale of participation and organised competition, but these are not widely recognised by mainstream sports organisations.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 1:12 pm
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