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re: What is your definition of a sport?
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:43 pm to kidbourbon
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:43 pm to kidbourbon
it still effects your performance though, does it not?
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Yeah, and Wesley Snipes is also really slow. When he filmed Major League as Willie Mays Hayes, they had to speed up the footage.
I think there was an article about white men can't jump a while ago in grantland. He was like the one kid in your elementary school class that couldn't even consistently throw a ball in a general forward direction.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:44 pm to kidbourbon
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You don't know what agility means.
lol, I am pretty sure I do. what I described in the parentheses describes agile movements. Quick nimble movements to adjust to different pitches. Agility. I think you are the one stuck thinking agility only applies to foot movements, although batting has that too.
ETA: pitching requires almost zero agility (not talking about fielding)
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:45 pm to Pedro
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im 100% serious. ive experienced it first hand
So, you're actually saying that a "sport" should be determined by the level of competition you're competing against?
Like if I was playing basketball against a middle schooler I wouldn't be playing a sport, but if I was playing Lebron I would be?
A sport doesn't change based on how good the people are. Its still the same game.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:45 pm to Pedro
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it still effects your performance though, does it not?
I see a distinction between the two. And if you call 100 meter dash competition "direct opposition" then you just completely eviscerated the definition of direct competition.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:47 pm to ULSU
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lol, I am pretty sure I do. what I described in the parentheses describes agile movements. Quick nimble movements to adjust to different pitches. Agility. I think you are the one stuck thinking agility only applies to foot movements, although batting has that too.
Yeah, you still don't know what agility means.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:47 pm to kidbourbon
quote:If he had average speed and a weak arm then he probably wouldn't be nearly as good.
Assume he had average speed and a weak arm. Proceed with same hypo.
Ichiro >>>>>>> Willie Mays Hayes
He could make up for it if he hit at a ridiculously high average, because those people are just as rare as somebody throwing 98 or hitting a lot of homeruns.
Professional baseball players have at least one thing they do athletically better than most people. Whether that is having a very strong arm, or being ridiculously fast, or crushing the ball, or something.
Skill then gets those minor leaguers into the MLB. Those who can improve their skills to go along with their raw abilities get to the Majors. Those who can't wash out.
If a guy ONLY hit for average, he might be a decent player, but he could be MUCH better if he had power, speed, a strong arm, etc. That's my point. If athleticism alone makes a player much better, then that sport has athletes.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:48 pm to WG_Dawg
no no no no. im not saying that.
im trying to prove that other athletes can change your performance in track which is one of the definitions being thrown out.
im trying to prove that other athletes can change your performance in track which is one of the definitions being thrown out.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:49 pm to kidbourbon
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Yeah, you still don't know what agility means.
explain smart guy
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a·gil·i·ty [uh-jil-i-tee] Show IPA noun 1. the power of moving quickly and easily; nimbleness: exercises demanding agility.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:49 pm to PrimeTime Money
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If he had average speed and a weak arm then he probably wouldn't be nearly as good.
He could make up for it if he hit at a ridiculously high average, because those people are just as rare as somebody throwing 98 or hitting a lot of homeruns.
Professional baseball players have at least one thing they do athletically better than most people. Whether that is having a very strong arm, or being ridiculously fast, or crushing the ball, or something.
Skill then gets those minor leaguers into the MLB. Those who can improve their skills to go along with their raw abilities get to the Majors. Those who can't wash out.
Okay, athleticism may be the whip cream, but skill (hand-eye) is still the pumpkin pie.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:50 pm to kidbourbon
My definition: anything that requires any degree of athletic prowess that is won through objective criteria.
If there is some degree of subjectivity to determining a winner (aka JUDGES), it is not a sport.
No gymnastics
No figure skating
No boxing (unless there is a knockout)
Not going back three pages to see if anybody said this.
If there is some degree of subjectivity to determining a winner (aka JUDGES), it is not a sport.
No gymnastics
No figure skating
No boxing (unless there is a knockout)
Not going back three pages to see if anybody said this.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:52 pm to lsutigers1992
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My definition: anything that requires any degree of athletic prowess that is won through objective criteria.
This is basically my exact definition as well.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:53 pm to Pedro
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im trying to prove that other athletes can change your performance in track
And I disagree, that's all mental on your part.
If the other guy is running faster and your brain says "alright pick it up a notch let's go" and you start running faster, that is 100% in your control and something you have done.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:53 pm to ULSU
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Yeah, you still don't know what agility means.
explain smart guy
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a·gil·i·ty [uh-jil-i-tee] Show IPA noun 1. the power of moving quickly and easily; nimbleness: exercises demanding agilit
I'm not sure why you're confused here. Batting requires no movement. The feet are stationery. Agility is the very antithesis of that. Allen Iverson is agile. JFF is agile. Babe Ruth was not agile. Luckily for him, he didn't need to be.
Your argument here is really silly.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:53 pm to ULSU
Eh, I still like my definition best 
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:53 pm to ULSU
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any degree of athletic prowess
So what's your definition of any athletic prowess, table tennis? Auto racing? Tiddlywinks?
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:55 pm to kidbourbon
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Batting requires no movement. The feet are stationery
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:55 pm to kidbourbon
quote:Skill is always going to be the most important thing when playing a sport. You can be as athletic as you want, but if you can catch, throw, shoot, hit, etc, then you aren't good at that sport.
Okay, athleticism may be the whip cream, but skill (hand-eye) is still the pumpkin pie.
My definition of sports that have athletes are if the players of that sport can become much better by greater athletic gifts.
That's why baseball is an athletic sport. Athleticism can greatly improve the performance of a player.
It's why I think golf isn't an athletic sport. Because much improved athleticism won't make a golfer much better in my opinion.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:57 pm to kidbourbon
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Batting requires no movement. The feet are stationery.
I cannot even respond to this.
If you are playing whack a mole, hand-eye coordination simply allows you to have the hammer make contact with the mole that pops up. The ability to move from one mole to the next quickly is agility.
It does not have to mean a foot movement, although you have different strides and feet movement in hitting a baseball as well. Seems like you do not understand this.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:58 pm to kidbourbon
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Batting requires no movement. The feet are stationery.
Wow. Just... wow.
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