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re: What is your definition of a sport?

Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:59 pm to
Yes, yes, no

Anybody who has to sit in that car for three hours in that suit in the middle of summer and drive 200 mph with people 18 inches of you in all directions has to have some sort of athletic ability. I know a lot of you may disagree.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76557 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:01 pm to
I agree because the "athlete" has to respond to extenuating circumstances.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86581 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:02 pm to
Nascar racing is a lot more difficult than the casual observer would think..

but my whole thing including nascar as a sport is there are other people hindering your progress. There aren't lanes, it's a free for all. People can get in front of you and block you, people can tap your bumper and spin you out, etc. People are actively trying to inhibit you winning.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:04 pm to
Yes. Drive 80 for three hours straight on the Interstate in Houston in an un-air-conditioned car with the windows up and tell me how you feel.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:04 pm to
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Nascar racing is a lot more difficult than the casual observer would think..


You hold and manipulate a tight wheel constantly and make coordinated foot movements for three straight hours in hot arse temps.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76557 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Drive 80 for three hours straight on the Interstate in Houston in an un-air-conditioned car with the windows up and tell me how you feel.


Auto racing has a tinsey little bit more to it than that
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:06 pm to
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Auto racing has a tinsey little bit more to it than that


I agree. Just trying to make a point to the non-believers.
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

KosmoCramer


Can we be reasonable people here?

A small step of the front foot does not agility make.



Tennis players do that when they serve. A tennis serve requires no agility. John Isner is both the least agile player in the game and the best server.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:11 pm to
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Ping Pong


Yes


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Golf


No


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Bull Fighting


Yes


Wtf

Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:12 pm to
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LSUBoo

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ULSU


See above. Try to play the reasonable people game here.

When you argue that batting requires agility, you just lose credibility. What you're saying is objective nonsense.
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:15 pm to
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It does not have to mean a foot movement,


Great point. Typing speed is actually a fantastic metric for agility. Forget cone drills. Put them in front of keyboard.

I'm consistently 55 WPM. I'm agile and worth your while.
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:16 pm to
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It does not have to mean a foot movemen


Stated differently: yes it does.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101931 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Try to play the reasonable people game here.


Says the guy that just said that batting requires no movement.

quote:

When you argue that batting requires agility, you just lose credibility.


LINK

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Agility or nimbleness is the ability to change the body's position efficiently, and requires the integration of isolated movement skills using a combination of balance, coordination, speed, reflexes, strength, and endurance. Agility is the ability to change the direction of the body in an efficient and effective manner and to achieve this requires a combination of

balance – the ability to maintain equilibrium when stationary or moving (i.e. not to fall over) through the coordinated actions of our sensory functions (eyes, ears and the proprioceptive organs in our joints);
static balance – the ability to retain the centre of mass above the base of support in a stationary position;
dynamic balance – the ability to maintain balance with body movement; speed - the ability to move all or part of the body quickly; strength - the ability of a muscle or muscle group to overcome a resistance; and lastly,
co-ordination – the ability to control the movement of the body in co-operation with the body's sensory functions (e.g., in catching a ball [ball, hand and eye co-ordination]).


Batting takes a shite ton of balance and coordination, also speed, reflexes, and strength. Maybe not the endurance part, unless we're talking a home run derby. So yeah, I think batting successfully requires a lot of agility.

Unless you want to redefine agility.

Or just look at the main line. "Agility is the ability to change the direction of the body in an efficient and effective manner" Adjusting to a pitch and changing your swing to hit it in an efficient and effective manner is pretty much the name of the game.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:19 pm to
quote:


See above. Try to play the reasonable people game here.

When you argue that batting requires agility, you just lose credibility. What you're saying is objective nonsense.


No, you are making up a definition of agility to only include feet movements.

You show one example of a swing. Now go show him fight off an inside fastball and see what his feet and hands do. Show a batter going opposite field with a curve and look at the difference.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:20 pm to
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Stated differently: yes it does.


says you



Anyway, MLB batters are still more agile of foot than 95% of all humans. You can't get deep in a stance and move out of the way of a 97 MPH fastball without being very agile (with your feet)


This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:25 pm to
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No, you are making up a definition of agility to only include feet movements.

You show one example of a swing. Now go show him fight off an side fastball and see what his feet and hands do. Show a batter going opposite field with a curve and look at the difference.


You should just stop. I can't stress enough that what you are saying is objective nonsense, and on every conceivable level.

If you actually believe that batting requires agility. If you actually think that Babe Ruth went yard because he was agile. If you actually think that Bonds was a better hitter at 36 than 23 because he was more agile....then you're retarded and I feel sorry for you.

Because you never want to go FULL retard.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15330 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:27 pm to
Definition of Sport:

Whatever criteria you can randomly come up with that mentally minimizes the necessary skill/athleticism of the sports you don't find interesting.



But seriously, since when has the definition of a sport had anything to do with whether or not the winner is decided objectively?
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:28 pm to
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You should just stop. I can't stress enough that what you are saying is objective nonsense, and on every conceivable level.

If you actually believe that batting requires agility. If you actually think that Babe Ruth went yard because he was agile. If you actually think that Bonds was a better hitter at 36 than 23 because he was more agile....then you're retarded and I feel sorry for you.

Because you never want to go FULL retard.


You can huff an puff all you want, but no one else here has agreed with you, and you are completely making up your own definition of agile. You say batting requires no agility? Fine. I just know not to take anything else you say seriously.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:29 pm to
OED 1st Edition - "sport is a form of pastime carried on in the open air and involving some amount of bodily exercise."

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Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15330 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

You say batting requires no agility?


I think batting requires agility, but honestly just not that much compared to a lot of other sports.
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