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re: Was champ Bailey a better corner than prime time?
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:24 am to BeachDude022
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:24 am to BeachDude022
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Deion hated contact, which is why he is lower in tackles and leads in pick sixes
Sanders has 9 career pick 6's. Woodson has 12..
The tackles, sacks, and fumble recoveries are no where near close. Woodson is way ahead.
I'm still waiting. How is Sanders a better CB?
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:29 am to LooseCannon22282
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Rod Woodson was the best NFL DB I watched growing up.
He'd tackle, he'd cover, he'd make things happen if he got the ball.
Sanders is the best cover corner of all time; Rod Woodson was the most complete. He had the entire package and was just as good as safety.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:58 am to brmark70816
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How is Sanders a better CB?
Because Prime told him so. That poster is just another one who is easily mesmerized by shameless self-promoters.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 12:34 pm to brmark70816
Cornerback is the most unique position in sports in that the lower your stats are, the better you are as a player because it usually means QBs aren't throwing in your direction. But I've always felt like Deion was a better CB but Woodson was the better DB and football player. Woodson tore his ACL and lost all of his speed but was able to adjust his game to become a beast of a safety into his late 30s. Like I don't think Deion would have been able to do that.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I wasn't a Deion fan but he could flat play some corner. He wasn't going to support the run physically/violently but he did it in his own way. He was hired to cover people, not stop the run.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:47 pm to Bench McElroy
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Cornerback is the most unique position in sports in that the lower your stats are, the better you are as a player because it usually means QBs aren't throwing in your direction.
No. I'm sorry that is a silly argument. Sanders is a HOFer cause of what he did on the field. Not cause teams tried to avoid him. His #s are great and they show him to be a great player. Woodson is just superior.
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I've always felt like Deion was a better CB but Woodson was the better DB and football player
I think you are taking a position and trying to make it all about one thing, covering someone. Playing CB is about way more than that. But if you are saying Sanders is the greatest cover guy ever, than alright. Maybe he is..
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:52 pm to UnluckyTiger
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2. Darrell Green
is what? about 55 now?
probably still could run a 4.7 40
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:41 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Deion would close off one half of the field… his speed was lethal .
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:16 pm to brmark70816
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Sanders has 9 career pick 6's. Woodson has 12..
The tackles, sacks, and fumble recoveries are no where near close. Woodson is way ahead.
I'm still waiting. How is Sanders a better CB?
To be fair, he played an extra 50 games. That's an extra 20+% of career, (238 vs 188)
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:23 pm to BoardReader
No Jason Seahorn love in here, smh.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:38 pm to JodyPlauche
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A Prime Prime was the best defensive player of All-time
Ed Reed
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:46 pm to Jcorye1
Best overall DB might be Ronnie Lott. Had 23 int’s as a CB, then switched to Safety and had 40 more. Also unlike Deion, he had a shitload of tackles.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:59 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Roland Bailey
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:03 pm to BoardReader
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To be fair, he played an extra 50 games. That's an extra 20+% of career, (238 vs 188)
Woodson had over double the tackles and triple the fumble recoveries. Sanders had 1 sack, Woodson had 13.5. Maybe Sanders gets close in Ints playing an additional 50 games, but his best 3 year stretch is 16 (needs 18 to tie). He wasn't going to get anywhere close to that in those 3 years he missed being retired..
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:35 pm to brmark70816
“Neon” Deion is massively overrated as a CB. I remember watching him at FSU when they played Auburn and he bailed out on plays repeatedly; I recall the play by play guy describing Deion as “asleep at the switch “ when he left receivers open over and over.
Then in the NFL he was always looking for ways to promote himself, get INTs,avoid contact, and get ready for “Prime Time” interviews. His teammates reportedly berated him for his sideshow behavior that took the team focus away from winning (one example of this was Jerry Rice when the 49ers rented Deion for a year).
I would take all those other CBs (Bailey, Haynes, Williams, Woodson, etc…..) way before Deion. Give me a player with heart that puts the team first, and that means a lot more than a me-first “Prime Time” player.
Then in the NFL he was always looking for ways to promote himself, get INTs,avoid contact, and get ready for “Prime Time” interviews. His teammates reportedly berated him for his sideshow behavior that took the team focus away from winning (one example of this was Jerry Rice when the 49ers rented Deion for a year).
I would take all those other CBs (Bailey, Haynes, Williams, Woodson, etc…..) way before Deion. Give me a player with heart that puts the team first, and that means a lot more than a me-first “Prime Time” player.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:24 pm to FlyDownTheField83
Best DB’s are
Dick Night Train Lane
Prime
Woodson
Lott
Revis
Atwater
Reed
Shell
Now how you order them is preference but any one of those guys makes your DB scary good
Dick Night Train Lane
Prime
Woodson
Lott
Revis
Atwater
Reed
Shell
Now how you order them is preference but any one of those guys makes your DB scary good
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:04 pm to sms151t
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Shell
Donnie Shell?
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:55 pm to KosmoCramer
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Interesting comparison since Ozzie was pedestrian at the plate compared to other Shortstops.
Different conversation entirely but A) Ozzie’s offensive woes are generally overstated, and B) short stop is a position on the field not at the plate. And the Wizard was the best in the field.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:31 am to UnluckyTiger
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1. Prime
2. Darrell Green
3. Champ
4. Woodson
5. Revis
A CB that's a pure hard hitter, I'm going to go a bit further back with Ronnie Lott.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:01 am to sms151t
quote:no fricking chance revis is better than champ. I’ll meet you at sonic over that dumb shite
Revis
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