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re: UFC 326: Holloway v Oliveira (3/7/26, 4:30PM CT)

Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:46 am to
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:46 am to
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Was Garbrandt on cocaine for this fight? Dancing around, styling and profiling. Dodging punches like he's Neo in the Matrix. Wild.



before the two losses to TJ, garbrandt was a beast. you still see flashes of it but he isnt the same guy. also training at alpha male had to have been a huge advantage with not only the level of your team being high, but the amount of minutes so many of the guys had spent in the ring with cruz. there were like 3-4 guys in that camp that had fought cruz, some multiple times like faber.

135 was so much more exciting back then. I think petr is in that same mold but the rest of the top guys in the division are kind of meh.
This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 10:49 am
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:54 am to
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Anyone with a pulse knew Do Bronx was going to take this. Most well rounded fighter in the game and still fighting at such a high level.



yeah I was really surprised that max was the favorite and so many people thought he was going to walk thru charles. I am honestly very surprised that max was able to complete the fight without getting submitted.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:00 am to
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Very disappointed in Oliveira. Sure this was an MMA Master Class but this was for the BMF. BMF Fights are expected to be a toe to toe scrap and brawl not a Grappling Match. Congrats on the win but considering what it was for and supposed to mean It SUCKED!
you blame Oliveira for that? That was on Max. If he has shown even a little resistance from getting taken down or getting up every once in a while the fight would have been different. We've seen Charles fights. He's not afraid of trading
Posted by cfish140
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:16 am to
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Was Garbrandt on cocaine for this fight? Dancing around, styling and profiling. Dodging punches like he's Neo in the Matrix. Wild.



A bunch of us watched that card at Uncle Earls (RIP) back when popular bars would play big cards, it was headlined by Rousey's "comeback" against Nunes . We were the only ones that picked Garbrandt to win the fight, but i didnt think he would do it that easily. Nobody did that to Cruz. He was definitely the man before he ran into a roided up Dillashaw.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Very disappointed in Oliveira. Sure this was an MMA Master Class but this was for the BMF. BMF Fights are expected to be a toe to toe scrap and brawl not a Grappling Match. Congrats on the win but considering what it was for and supposed to mean It SUCKED!


Yeah why whip a guys arse when you can give him a statistically better chance at winning due to dumb pride.
Posted by ArcticTiger
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:02 pm to
I would agree 10,000% if it was not for the BMF Belt.
Posted by ArcticTiger
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:04 pm to
Go back and look at other BMF Fights and see how much grappling exchanges were initiated by either fighter. Guaranteed there was more last night than any of the others combined.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:09 pm to
I guess I just see completely inposing your will on your opponent as more badass than just trading shots. Holloway was beaten to shite over 5 rounds.
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:14 pm to
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you blame Oliveira for that? That was on Max. If he has shown even a little resistance from getting taken down or getting up every once in a while the fight would have been different.


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Posted by Big Fat Guy
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 1:00 pm to
Topuria must be strong as hell. Or maybe being shorter is an advantage in those situations?

Whatever it is, it's crazy that Charles was able to do what he did to Max and he wasn't able to do that to Topuria.

Since getting KO'd by Topuria, Charles has just been going for grappling and BJJ and not trading punches as much. But Topuria was on offense vs. Charles on the ground too.
Posted by ArcticTiger
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 1:40 pm to
Agree 10000! Not sure why he didnt try to fight Topuria the way he fought Max last night. I cant help but feel like things might have gone differently. Topuria coming off of multiple knockouts in a row and just stands right in front of him waiting to get KO'd!
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Not sure why he didnt try to fight Topuria the way he fought Max last night
did you just ignore the video posted two posts above?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:33 am to
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Very disappointed in Oliveira. Sure this was an MMA Master Class but this was for the BMF. BMF Fights are expected to be a toe to toe scrap and brawl not a Grappling Match. Congrats on the win but considering what it was for and supposed to mean It SUCKED!


So you were one of the bozo's in the crowd booing then?

What a ridiculous take. I enjoyed every minute of that arse whooping. I like Max, but Oliveira put on a show. It's kind of crazy how dumb most UFC fans are. Not saying you are btw, but a stadium full of people booing was just embarrassing. Even the announcing crew said "I have no idea why these people are booing."

You want to remain the BMF, then don't get your arse slammed to the ground 10 times and get beat up. It would be retarded for Charles to change the way he fights just because it's the BMF fight.

On another note from that card, I couldn't help but wish a guy like Borralho or De Ridder would have to step in a ring with a legit Cruiserweight or Light Heavyweight boxer. They talked those dudes up, even during the fight, like these were elite boxers and it was kind of laughable how slow they were. They displayed little to know MMA skills, were completely gassed by the 2nd round and just got by by both being crappy boxers. One just slightly less crappy than the other.
Posted by cfish140
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:43 am to
There’s been a lot more casuals in these threads since the cards are free on paramount now
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:49 am to
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Even the announcing crew said "I have no idea why these people are booing.


DC even questioned if this was a good fight for the title of BMF. I think it's a dumb title to begin with but don't act like there's no assumption that brawling isn't part of BMF. Anything other than a BMF, and it would have been a great fight. But people want Max/Gaethje for a BMF fight, not grappling.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 11:52 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:05 pm to
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I think it's a dumb title to begin with but don't act like there's no assumption that brawling isn't part of BMF. Anything other than a BMF, and it would have been a great fight. But people want Max/Gaethje for a BMF fight, not grappling.


I had ZERO assumptions that Charles was going to get in there and brawl all night simply because it is a BMF fight. No one should have.

A BMF in MMA to me is also a guy that can actually display mixed martial arts. A BMF is a guy that can fight but also get you on the ground and beat your arse while he has you in a pretzel position. It's just a different style BMF. You would think most MMA fans would appreciate a mixed martial artists.

I guess the fight before would have been a better fight as the BMF. Two guys that looked like amateur boxers taking deep breaths minutes into the first round and throwing punches that wouldn't knock down a 130 weight class boxer.

I guess maybe take away the BMF from Charles and let Michael Chandler fight in all of them. There are guys that always put on a show with wreckless abandonment, maybe just rename the belt.

Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:25 pm to
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I had ZERO assumptions that Charles was going to get in there and brawl all night simply because it is a BMF fight. No one should have.


I don't think many people did. Either 1. They expected Max to stay on his feet more than he was or 2. it was just a bad match up for a BMF fight.
And again, even DC questioned whether it was a good fight for a BMF title. And although, ex athletes shouldn't be given carte blanche on current sports, you can't really criticize people for wanting a different turn out.
You do have a valid point. Like I said, it was a great match. Just not for what most people associate with BMF. So maybe you're right. Rename it. Or have different rules to play by.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 2:07 pm to
This was my point exactly. Agree 100% on your points. Simple answer for BMF the Fans want and expect a standup brawl.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2827 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:10 pm to
Must have. Charles tried to do it and clearly couldn't....I'm not a huge fan of Ilia but people don't grapple with him because they can't. I would love to see him fight Arman but I have a feeling he would get the Oliveira treatment too.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:32 pm to
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On another note from that card, I couldn't help but wish a guy like Borralho or De Ridder would have to step in a ring with a legit Cruiserweight or Light Heavyweight boxer. They talked those dudes up, even during the fight, like these were elite boxers and it was kind of laughable how slow they were. They displayed little to know MMA skills, were completely gassed by the 2nd round and just got by by both being crappy boxers. One just slightly less crappy than the other.


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