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re: Troy Aikman and 16 others who don't belong in the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:07 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:07 pm to Bench McElroy
Aikman is an argument. Carter is not. And Martin is deserving too.
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:13 pm to Bench McElroy
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17. BUD GRANT 18. O.J. SIMPSON
Whoa dude...... Grant was a great great coach.....The Viking teams of the late 60's and early 70;s were some of the best all-time.. I understand they lost all those SB;s but the respect and records speak for themselves....
OJ???? You can't be serious.... He played on some really shitty teams and the D knew what was coming and still had trouble stopping him.. The guy was a joy to watch and was tough as hell....
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:17 pm to Bench McElroy
OJ Simpson and Cris Carter? Lol....
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:19 pm to John McClane
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OJ on that list is ridiculous
I agree. I think the writer went back and edited his article to mark a line through OJ's name. He said he wouldn't put OJ in the hall, but that's only based on his murder trial. He said OJ deserves it based on his on the field mastery
FWIW, I think OJ should be in the hall. He was technically found innocent in his criminal trial, and you can't call the guy guilty when he's been proven innocent
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:24 pm to Upperdecker
it's just humorous to me how many people will argue that you can't be the GOAT at anything without titles. even in the modern era. if you've ever said a certain player isn't elite because he hasn't won title, then you've given up your right to argue Aikman not being in the hall 
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:29 pm to dukke v
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Grant was a great great coach
Grant being on the list is just stupid.
It's the Pro football Hall of Fame, Grant won:
-the Grey Cup 4 times, in 6 trips to the Grey Cup
-won the NFL Championship in '69 (final championship game prior to the merger)
-made it to the SuperBowl four times
-from 1968 to 1980 his Vikings won the NFC Central every season with the exception of 72 & 79
-260 wins (158 in the NFL)
He might not have won a Super Bowl but he did win an NBA title with the Lakers.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:35 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:36 pm to Bench McElroy
Aikman's QB Rating in the playoffs on those three Superbowl teams.
1992 - 126
1993 - 104
1995 - 106
Dude was nails when it counted.
1992 - 126
1993 - 104
1995 - 106
Dude was nails when it counted.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:38 pm to Haughton99
Aikman was a game manager but a great one. I loathe the Cowboys but he was very, very good for them and I don't think he's undeserving. If the Cowboys' game plan was working, Aikman wasn't supposed to throw the ball that much at all, anyway.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:42 pm to SabiDojo
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I can't wait to see the Troy Aikman responses.
They are basically the case that the author made for Namath: Handsome, classy, face of the most popular franchise in America, etc.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:47 pm to Bench McElroy
Wait did he just call Ray Guy an average punter?
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:48 pm to SirWinston
Nonsense. Namath and Aikman aren't really comparable. Please don't make me defend Troy Aikman
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:29 pm to wildtigercat93
terry bradshaw
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:31 pm to Haughton99
I loved Aikman when I was growing up but I do think that he is in the HoF mostly because as a group the "triplets" were HoF level and he was obviously an integral part. They made each other great. As far as his personal stats, touchdown to int ratios were not that great back then. Look at Brett Favre most of his career.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 3:40 pm to Upperdecker
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FWIW, I think OJ should be in the hall. He was technically found innocent in his criminal trial, and you can't call the guy guilty when he's been proven innocent
He wasn't proven innocent, so not sure if serious. Definite HOFer though.
Is the writer really arguing Moon shouldn't be in the Hall because he threw the ball a lot in a different era? Why should his numbers be held to present day standards?
I'd also love to know which punters he thinks are better if Guy is "average".
Posted on 8/15/15 at 4:06 pm to Upperdecker
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He said he wouldn't put OJ in the hall, but that's only based on his murder trial. He said OJ deserves it based on his on the field mastery
I though OJ was in the Hall long before he killed Ron and Nicole. Are they saying the Hall should go back and remove someone based on actions that occurred long after their playing career ended?
Posted on 8/15/15 at 4:22 pm to oleyeller
Anybody that thinks Terry Bradshaw does not belong in the HOF is a clueless idiot when it comes to pro football.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 4:27 pm to Feral
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Paul Hornung is the most overrated football player ever.
Not even the best running back on his own team. But he's still not as overrated as Namath.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 5:05 pm to Bench McElroy
1000 yd seasons back in the day was quite a feat for WR's.
They didn't throw the ball no where nearly as much then. Plus the way rules favor QB and WR's much more now than then. The defense actually got to play defense back then.
They didn't throw the ball no where nearly as much then. Plus the way rules favor QB and WR's much more now than then. The defense actually got to play defense back then.
This post was edited on 8/15/15 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 8/15/15 at 5:09 pm to lsu xman
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The defense actually got to play defense back then.
I miss the days of REAL NFL football... Now its just a larger version of the Arena league.........
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