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re: Travel Ball Parents Transitioning to High School
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:31 am to lsu777
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:31 am to lsu777
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always cracks me up when parents think their kid isnt playing for political reasons......yea like a coach is gonan say...im not putting the line up i feel gives me best chance to win cause ......little johnnies dad is tight with the principle.
Like a high school coach is gonna risk his job over that
A hifg school coaches job, especially, isn't all about wins and losses. If Johnny's dad paid for all the uniforms, you really think Johnny isn't going to play?
There's tons of parents who will make every excuse for their kid, but acting like there's no politics either is dumb v
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:35 am to cjohn1290
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agree, there is a select few organizations who do it right. The majority though are full of kids who have played on 4-5 different travel teams because they can’t find the right “fit” aka not playing the position or batting in a certain spot in the lineup that mommy and daddy want him to be hitting.
We see some of that around here (Acadiana), but to me the bigger problem is a lack of good coaching.
Watering down the player pool is one thing. At least kids are getting reps and usually against even competition.
Watering down the coaching pool is bad for everyone.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:42 am to Earnest_P
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Watering down the coaching pool is bad for everyone.
It has become increasingly difficult to get people to coach high school sports over the last ten years. That 6% stipend to spend almost as much time coaching as you do teaching has always been ridiculous, but many would do it to get a position at the school they wanted to work at. With the shortage and desperate need for teachers now, they can get that job without agreeing to coach.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:47 am to cjohn1290
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5. If he has been playing rec or AA baseball, I would suggest sending him to a Class C-2A school if you want him to play.
This is what is wrong with travel baseball, all these parents think they can overcome shitty athleticism with 1000’s in private instruction.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:57 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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A hifg school coaches job, especially, isn't all about wins and losses. If Johnny's dad paid for all the uniforms, you really think Johnny isn't going to play?
There's tons of parents who will make every excuse for their kid, but acting like there's no politics either is dumb v
play??? maybe but start over a better player...i havent really seen it. Seen them be on the team though. Maybe im being naive though.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:57 am to barry
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This is what is wrong with travel baseball, all these parents think they can overcome shitty athleticism with 1000’s in private instruction.
umm with strength training and lots of skill development, you can overcome most of it. baseball isnt football.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:41 pm to cjohn1290
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The 2 years previous to last my kid has been coached by: 1. Former HS state championship, juco national championship, current wood bat instructional league coach. 2. Former college and professional pitcher. The past season, first year in high school,he was coached by a teacher. Your logic does not compute.
Just because you play D1 baseball or pitch professionally doesn’t make you a great coach. Look around at the successful high school coaches currently and I don’t believe many played pro ball.
Also, if the school is hiring what you call “teachers” as their school’s head coach then it’s your fault for sending your kid there in the first place
The first coach listed COACHED those teams and is actively coaching college/pro woodbat summer ball in NewYork.
The second guy just took a Associate Head coach/pitching coach with a local university.
Like I said better than a teacher.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:47 pm to barry
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This is what is wrong with travel baseball, all these parents think they can overcome shitty athleticism with 1000’s in private instruction.
Lessons aren't required. But lessons will typically improve the skill level of any player, regardless of athleticism. This is true with baseball, golf, tennis, music, etc. Most parents who pay for lessons for their children are simply trying to maximize their child's potential for whatever god given talent they were born with.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:59 pm to Stevo
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Most parents who pay for lessons for their children are simply trying to maximize their child's potential for whatever god given talent they were born with.
Unfortunately many on TD don't think that's fair, they think parents should just let the chips fall as they may and not help their kid. They think that's living thru the kid
In other words, and sure you already knew this, there is a huge collection of retards stuck in the 1980s style of athletics.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:02 pm to lsu777
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Unfortunately many on TD don't think that's fair, they think parents should just let the chips fall as they may and not help their kid. They think that's living thru the kid
In other words, and sure you already knew this, there is a huge collection of retards stuck in the 1980s style of athletics.
Not that many people think that. They think being in credit card debt so your kid can get private lessons that in the grand scheme of things won't make any material impact on his life is dumb, because it is.
If you can afford it, go for it. But if you have consumer debt you shouldn't be doing that and like 70% of Americans do.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Not that many people think that. They think being in credit card debt so your kid can get private lessons that in the grand scheme of things won't make any material impact on his life is dumb, because it is.
If you can afford it, go for it. But if you have consumer debt you shouldn't be doing that and like 70% of Americans do.
We agree on the debt thing, disagree on not many people thinking that. The ot is full of them.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:11 pm to Jumpinjack
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Okay, less than 10% of HS coaches know what they are doing. Teachers making a supplement. And politics abound.
In my area, it's the opposite. Coaches are hired to coach and may or may not have to teach a class or 2. But politics abound everywhere you go and in anything you do.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:16 pm to cjohn1290
This is correct.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:20 pm to cjohn1290
quote:Not entirely true. The parish I live in the 3A school had only one kid played travel, vast majority of them just played dixie.
5. If he has been playing rec or AA baseball, I would suggest sending him to a Class C-2A school if you want him to play.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:21 pm to cjohn1290
the biggest adjustments.....
for the kids
more than 12 players on a team....if you can't or won't there will likely be 5 or 6 maybe more that can and will.
for the parents
when the above happens you can't form a new team or go to a new team.
for the kids
more than 12 players on a team....if you can't or won't there will likely be 5 or 6 maybe more that can and will.
for the parents
when the above happens you can't form a new team or go to a new team.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:17 pm to cjohn1290
Lol! Pathetic what parents have become
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:23 pm to Jumpinjack
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Okay, less than 10% of HS coaches know what they are doing. Teachers making a supplement. And politics abound.
In my neck of the woods, most baseball coaches at least played at the college level. The class 4A state champ is in our metro area, and they are coached by a former SP from Texas’ 2005 CWS winner. The standard for baseball is high in South Texas, and slouch coaches don’t get you very far.
Seems like you live in an area with shitty baseball or you had a bad experience.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:24 pm to danilo
Or you can have a kid who grows and matures. Starts playing as 9A and now plays on 14Major team. As a 9th grader started for the varsity in CF, lettered, on the team that has won 3 of the last 4 state championships. There's no way that kid starts, plays, or possibly even is interested in high school ball if all he does is play league. In our area anyway.
Travel ball can be a joke, it can also in the correct environments foster a level of growth in a young man that you just can't get without having a level of competition that pushes you.
Travel ball can be a joke, it can also in the correct environments foster a level of growth in a young man that you just can't get without having a level of competition that pushes you.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:30 pm to Bham Bammer
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Travel ball has its place but lots of parents are getting duped into thinking their kids are really good when they are actually thrown on the roster of the organization’s “C” team (excuse me, “National Elite Squad”) and their check is cashed. Then they play other “C” teams and Jayden hits .430 for the summer and now he should be starting on varsity.
Lots of truth here. One of the parents of my son’s former team touted they got to play on Vanderbilt’s field last weekend. Said it really gave the boys the perspective and the excitement of what playing college ball will be like for the boys when they get there (15u now)
Never mind they got no hit with 16 strikeouts over 7 innings and lost 9-0.
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