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Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:32 pm to Fus0623
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:32 pm to Fus0623
Nothing since initial reports that the Spurs were thinking about offering something in the 9 mil range.
ETA: he's also a under the Arenas provision, so he can only get offered about 8.4 mil in his first year. If the Spurs are going to use part of the MLE to bring Gasol back, they won't really have room to bring back Simmons.
ETA: he's also a under the Arenas provision, so he can only get offered about 8.4 mil in his first year. If the Spurs are going to use part of the MLE to bring Gasol back, they won't really have room to bring back Simmons.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 7:42 pm
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:34 pm to GeauxAggie972
I remember when this board seriously thought McRoberts was a legit signing to convince LeBron to stay in Miami
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:36 pm to GeauxAggie972
quote:
Rudy Gay to the Spurs. 2/$17 mil
Brilliant signing by the Spurs.
People wonder how they stay relevant. You get starter-level players on backup deals.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:40 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I would argue that if Gordon Hayward was black, he would have more hype behind him about being a 2-way star than he has now. We have in our mind the picture of a white player being a "high motor guy", "high IQ player", "brings his lunch pail", etc. and all of the other stereotypes. People aren't sure what to make of a white guy with the skills Gordon Hayward has and that makes them more skeptical of him because he's white.
Problem some truth to that. Radio hosts were talking about the pitch for Hayward being centered around his basketball IQ rather than his brand or the nightlife and what not.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:41 pm to Goldrush25
A player his age with an Achilles injury... he may not even earn that contract. That's the worse injury an NBA player can have.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:43 pm to Boomshockalocka
Worse than a concussion?
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:45 pm to Boomshockalocka
Honestly if he's only 50% of what he used to be, as a backup it's still a good deal, especially when you see Otto Porter getting $26m a year.
And on the Spurs he's not going to be asked to carry some huge load anyway.
And on the Spurs he's not going to be asked to carry some huge load anyway.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:49 pm to Epic Cajun
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Worse than a concussion?
No way. An undetected near concussion led to a 39-point blowout defeat at home. Can you imagine what a real concussion would/could do?
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:50 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Well since Gobert only missed 1 game, while Hill missed 33, and Hayward missed 9 we can find some overlap.
Were those minutes versus starters or bench players?
Both Hayward and Hill missed the 12/08/16 game against GSW. Gobert was -10 in (35 minutes, 23 seconds). He was 8 for 8 from the field and 20 points and 16 rebounds.
In addition, the one game Gobert missed was the 03/11/17 game against OKC. Hayward was -19 in 21 minutes (3 of 9 from field), while Hill was -22 in 18.5 minutes.
In addition, because of the little overlap in the games Hill and Hayward missed, that means 40 of Gobert's 82 games (32 for Hill; 8 for Hayward) was missing. So given that Gobert is there best player, he was already more likely to be playing against his opponents best player, and in because either Hill and Hayward was out for so many games, then it's even more likely that when one say, he was still playing against the better players.
Either way, the data are overwhelmingly in Gobert's favor. In fact, there is not a single metric or analysis that suggests Hayward was even close to as good or valuable, let alone one that days he was better.
You obviously rate Hayward pretty high (14th) with in the league while I think you are overrating him, it's not big of a reach. That being said, regardless of where you rate Hayward, Gobert has to be higher than him (at least based on last year).
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:00 pm to htran90
quote:Sure. But Hill missed 33 games last year. And only managed to play in 39% of the total minutes. So while he provided a ton of value when he was on the court (+3.6 BPM), his overall value over the season was minimized by his lack of playing time (2.2 VORP; 5.9 WARP).
Add Rubio for hill and they go from being efficient and solid offensively to questionable at best. Defensively they're still stout.
Rubio on the other hand, played in 26 more games and was on the court for 925 more minutes. So while he provided less value than Hill (0.8 BPM) when on the court, the extra minutes made his overall value much closer (1.7 VORP; 4.6 WARP).
So if Rubio can stay healthy, the net loss shouldn't be as significant due to increased playing time from Hill's the year before.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:01 pm to KillerNut9
quote:Don't forever the Napier draft pick, although LeBron did express excitement for it.
I remember when this board seriously thought McRoberts was a legit signing to convince LeBron to stay in Miami
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:03 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
Brilliant signing by the Spurs
Every team has won more games after trading away Rudy Gay.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:07 pm to KillerNut9
McRoberts has talent, he just happens to be made out of porcelain
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:10 pm to wildtigercat93
Glad to know the Heat will not be major players in FA next year
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:12 pm to Epic Cajun
Just read that the Spurs used the MLE for Gay's contract. They have to use space or an exception to sign Simmons. I believe they only have 5 mil in space. Seems like Simmons could be had with another team offering the MLE.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:19 pm to GeauxAggie972
quote:
Rudy Gay to the Spurs. 2/$17 mil
RIP Hawks/Rudy Gay memes
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:20 pm to Toula
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Every team has won more games after trading away Rudy Gay.
Too bad the Kings didn't trade him.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:23 pm to Epic Cajun
Simmons is a very nice player. If Olynk can get 50 mil, Simmons should get a cool 70
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:32 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:
Simmons is a very nice player. If Olynk can get 50 mil, Simmons should get a cool 70
I believe his max is around 67 mil over 4 years, it might actually be 70 with the raises though.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:37 pm to Epic Cajun
Utah should be calling him
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